incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 48 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Think you're sold on other things regarding JSN than YAC IMO. 1.65 10 split vs a 1.49 for Flowers. The ability to get to top speed instantly translates to YAC in the league. You're drafting JSN for the route running prowess, exceptional hands and boundary awareness and just overall football intelligence. He'll be an average YAC guy. Oof, that 1.65 split is terrible. I didn't even notice that before. That shows up on tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Amon-Ra St. Brown - 1.63 10 yard split Davante Adams - 1.64 10 yard split Both top 10 in YAC at WR in the NFL last year. There's more to it than 10 yard splits. EDIT - I'll even add CeeDee Lamb's 1.58 10 yard split to that list. He was also top 10 at WR in YAC. All 3 of those guys posted 4.50 40 times or worse during the draft process as well. All three guys are exceptional route runners. Coincidence? Davante had a 1.53 10yd split. https://www.mockdraftable.com/embed/davante-adams?position=WR&page=MEASURABLES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Gosh it's almost like I have JSN still has a top 3-4 prospect in this class. I'm doing literally exactly what you are calling for here lol His lack of speed results in me putting a couple other WRs "over the top" of him... Giving a slot WR a late first round value isn't burying him... You literally have a post calling Flowers the only first round WR, so how is that putting a 1st round grade on him? Do you always speak out of both sides of your mouth? Edited April 11, 2023 by beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: You literally have a post calling Flowers the only first round WR, so how is that putting a 1st round grade on him? Do you always speak out of both sides of your mouth? For our area of the first round (top half). I made that pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Davante had a 1.53 10yd split. https://www.mockdraftable.com/embed/davante-adams?position=WR&page=MEASURABLES I used his combine grade where he had a 1.64. That site is literally the only place that has a 1.53 for him. Both his RAS score profile and the combine have a 1.64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: For our area of the first round (top half). I made that pretty clear. Maybe in your mind but certainly not on the page. Quote I keep wanting to really like JSN, but he plays smaller than his size and he gets caught from behind going sideways and knocked backward on contact too much for me to LOVE him as a super elite slot prospect. He's definitely nifty with his feet and will get separation on the next level, but he's just not a YAC threat that warrants a first round pick. Quote Have to give props to @Packerraymond, there's only one 1st round WR in this draft and his name is Zay Flowers. Zay is who every JSN fan wants JSN to be. He measures smaller but plays bigger. He can threaten the defense horizontally, vertically and after the catch. That's a weapon MLF is sure to like. Wonder if he's the real target at pick 13, 14 or 15. Where does that specifically state top half of the first round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=91227&DraftYear=2014 Combine Results 1.64 10 yard split Pro Day Results 1.6 10 yard split 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I used his combine grade where he had a 1.64. That site is literally the only place that has a 1.53 for him. Both his RAS score profile and the combine have a 1.64. You need a new browser. That 1.53 is all over the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: You need a new browser. That 1.53 is all over the internet. Literally posted a site that quotes the stats from his combine and pro day. Both had him in the 1.6+ range. I also see 4.42 40 times "all over the internet" for Davante but that too comes out of thin air when talking his draft process results. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Where does that specifically state top half of the first round... Keeping looking while you're digging. I trust you'll be able to find numerous references to me saying JSN is a late first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Literally posted a site that quotes the stats from his combine and pro day. Both had him in the 1.6+ range. I also see 4.42 40 times "all over the internet" for Davante but that too comes out of thin air when talking his draft process results. Try again. Why is that source correct and mockdraftable, SI, bleached report, etc who list it as 1.53 are not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Keeping looking while you're digging. I trust you'll be able to find numerous references to me saying JSN is a late first. In your most recent posts? You know, where you continuously change your mind the more you dig? I remember Nolan Smith being your top 3 guy for the Packers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, incognito_man said: You need a new browser. That 1.53 is all over the internet. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Davante&l=Adams&i=20912 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: Why is that source correct and mockdraftable, SI, bleached report, etc who list it as 1.53 are not? Because it literally dates the pro day results. None of those sites do. Here's another pro day 1.60 from Packers 247. https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Green-Bay-Packers-Davante-Adams-2014-Pro-Day-Fresno-State--51804446/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Remember kids, don't always believe everything you read on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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