beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: If kuntz kraft kincaid washington and mayers go before him he may well make it to 4 I wouldn't expect it. Iowa TEs don't fall to day 3 very often. Kittle did but that proved to be a massive mistake. Of their draft viable #1 TEs since Dallas Clark, the only ones that made it to day 3 were Kittle (and that's partly because Iowa never threw him the damn ball), Scott Chandler and Brandon Myers. LaPorta is a 4 year highly productive starter in that offense. I'd put him anywhere from the 2nd round to mid-3rd round. Edited April 13, 2023 by beekay414 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 LaPorta's notable rankings CBS: 38Dane Brugler: 64Daniel Jeremiah: 42Drafttek: 79ESPN: 55Fox Sports: 69PFF: 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, beekay414 said: LaPorta's notable rankings CBS: 38Dane Brugler: 64Daniel Jeremiah: 42Drafttek: 79ESPN: 55Fox Sports: 69PFF: 43 2022 - 3 tight ends in first 3 rounds 2021- 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: 2022 - 3 tight ends in first 3 rounds 2021- 4 Let's look at the first 5, 6 or 7 TEs off the board in those classes, shall we? 2021 Kyle Pitts - 4th Pat Freiermuth - 55th Hunter Long - 81st Tommy Tremble - 83rd Tre' McKitty - 97th John Bates - 124th Kyle Granson - 127th 2022 Trey McBride - 55th Jelani Woods - 73rd Greg Dulcich - 80th Jeremy Ruckert - 101st Cade Otton - 106th Daniel Bellinger - 112th You wanna wager whether we'll go 51 or 55 picks either between picks or before a TE gets picked? This class is significantly stronger at TE than those classes. LaPorta pushes Freiermuth for TE2 out of all of those guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: 2022 - 3 tight ends in first 3 rounds 2021- 4 That is not relevant. 2022 - 6 WR's taken in the 1st round 2021 - 5 WR's taken in the 1st round 2020 - 6 WR's taken in the 1st round Does that mean 5 or 6 WR's have to be taken in the 1st round this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Let's look at the first 5, 6 or 7 TEs off the board in those classes, shall we? 2021 Kyle Pitts - 4th Pat Freiermuth - 55th Hunter Long - 81st Tommy Tremble - 83rd Tre' McKitty - 97th John Bates - 124th Kyle Granson - 127th 2022 Trey McBride - 55th Jelani Woods - 73rd Greg Dulcich - 80th Jeremy Ruckert - 101st Cade Otton - 106th Daniel Bellinger - 112th You wanna wager whether we'll go 51 or 55 picks either between picks or before a TE gets picked? This class is significantly stronger at TE than those classes. LaPorta pushes Freiermuth for TE2 out of all of those guys. i'm not sure that wager is relevant here i'm just saying there is a good chance la porta is TE #5 or 6 or even 7, and that could be a rd 4 selection. Edited April 13, 2023 by HokieHigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Just now, HokieHigh said: i'm just saying there is a good chance la porta is TE #5 or 6 or even 7, and that could be a rd 4 selection. In a normal draft? Sure. This one? No chance. LaPorta won't make it to Saturday. There aren't 100 players better than him. Especially considering the lack of blue chip WR talent. Teams want pass catchers and LaPorta does that. San Fran, I believe, has like 3 straight or 3 out of 4 comp picks to end the 3rd. You can bet your *** he doesn't make it past those picks. That's his absolute floor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, R T said: That is not relevant. 2022 - 6 WR's taken in the 1st round 2021 - 5 WR's taken in the 1st round 2020 - 6 WR's taken in the 1st round Does that mean 5 or 6 WR's have to be taken in the 1st round this year? it is relevant its just a small sample because the data is a more work to gather than is needed for the point. 2019 - 2 wr's taken in 1st round 2018 - 2 wr's taken in 1st round based on historical averages probably a safe bet that there will be 2+ receivers taken in 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 The only TEs I'll comfortable say will be ranked higher than LaPorta are Kincaid, Mayer and Washington. The rest of them, it'll come down to preference. Would not shock me if LaPorta goes before Musgrave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: In a normal draft? Sure. This one? No chance. LaPorta won't make it to Saturday. There aren't 100 players better than him. Especially considering the lack of blue chip WR talent. Teams want pass catchers and LaPorta does that. San Fran, I believe, has like 3 straight or 3 out of 4 comp picks to end the 3rd. You can bet your *** he doesn't make it past those picks. That's his absolute floor. i do think it is more likely than not that he goes by round 3, but i also don't see 6 t.e. being taken in first 3 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Just now, HokieHigh said: i do think it is more likely than not that he goes by round 3, but i also don't see 6 t.e. being taken in first 3 rounds If 5 went in a weak class in 2021 (McKitty was a 3rd round comp pick), there's no reason to make 6 an arbitrary number in a strong class. LIS, LaPorta could be ranked anywhere from 4 to 7 on a team's list. All it takes is one and he's got helium 2 weeks out. We could see as many as 9 go in the first 3 rounds. Just depends on how teams feel about guys like Will Mallory, Brenton Strange, Zack Kuntz, Josh Whyle, Davis Allen, Luke Schoonmaker and Cameron Latu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, beekay414 said: If 5 went in a weak class in 2021 (McKitty was a 3rd round comp pick), there's no reason to make 6 an arbitrary number in a strong class. LIS, LaPorta could be ranked anywhere from 4 to 7 on a team's list. All it takes is one and he's got helium 2 weeks out. We could see as many as 9 go in the first 3 rounds. Just depends on how teams feel about guys like Will Mallory, Brenton Strange, Zack Kuntz, Josh Whyle, Davis Allen, Luke Schoonmaker and Cameron Latu. 3 in 2022 3 in 2020 7 in 2019 4 in 2018 5 in 2017 3 in 2016 4 in 2015 7 in 2014 6 in 2013 3 in 2012 3 in 2011 5 in 2010 6 is on the high end, 7 is very unusual Edited April 14, 2023 by HokieHigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, PackFan13 said: Bro... Haha. Kincaid is that trashcan Jace ?! This is the worst take yet. I get not wanting him round one but holy **** you need to get your glasses checked. Again, I ask: What is the difference? Jace Amaro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0GMR0Y3m0 Jace Sternberger: https://youtu.be/YnWZe7LVKY0 Dalton Kincaid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxWz1GhHhQg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: 3 in 2022 3 in 2020 7 in 2019 4 in 2018 5 in 2017 3 in 2016 4 in 2015 7 in 2014 6 in 2013 6 is on the high end, 7 is very unusual Again, this isn't relevant because it is the best TE class in 15-20 years, maybe longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: 3 in 2022 3 in 2020 7 in 2019 4 in 2018 5 in 2017 3 in 2016 4 in 2015 6 is on the high end, 7 is very unusual Okay, we're going to attempt to do this again...this time, I'll try another way. I'll do the first TE taken in the 4th round the last, we'll go decade, since you wanna keep going further and further back and not take into account that this is a significantly stronger TE class than is the norm. 2022 - Cade Otton 2021 - John Bates 2020 - Harrison Bryant 2019 - Trevon Wesco 2018 - Ian Thomas 2017 - Michael Roberts 2016 - Tyler Higbee 2015 - Blake Bell 2014 - Arthur Lynch (5th Round) 2013 - Dion Sims Now, tell me, how many of those guys, as prospects, match up with Sam LaPorta? Maybe Tyler Higbee? Now take into account the program that LaPorta comes from compared to Higbee. And, again, Sam LaPorta could be as high as 4th in the class. He's got helium, he's a 4 year starter at a program that puts out NFL TEs like it's their job, and he tested really well. His absolute floor is San Francisco with the comp picks but my guess is he's gone well before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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