mayanfootball Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I wonder if we could get a no.1 DP for Peters? Or a no.1 and a no.3 for Kelce? Or a 1,2 for T. Hill? We will suffer next year if we don't do some trading. Could we get a no.5 for Alex Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkrei Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Chiefer said: I wonder if using those draft picks and trading up for a QB this year would have been a better option I don't think it would have helped to be honest unless someone was a breakout player. This team is toxic right now, like someone already mentioned we have no leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkrei Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 I think we need to shake things up on the coaching staff and nobody should feel safe about their jobs. As far as players, You don't have to be a leader on the team just don't act like a 3rd grader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 16 hours ago, TedLavie said: One problem is we have drafted numerous guys with off the field issues recently (Kelce, Hill, Peters, Chris Jones ...) and believed that would work with our veteran leadership. Except now Jamaal and Maclin are gone, Berry and Tamba are injured, DJ and Alex are gone next year too and the next generation to (Houston, Kelce, Parker etc) aren't leaders. We need to bring leadership next offseason. I liked Dorsey, but this is on him too. No way we can judge Veach this early. As for the coaching, Reid has his faults for sure. But let's be real here, it's our first bad season since he got here and we're still at .500 tied for the AFCW lead. Before him we went to the playoffs like twice in 10 years. I trust him to figure it out, maybe not this year but next year with a new QB and Berry back. I like Nagy, and honestly his playcalling vs the Jets has been great. Barring a miraculous run starting now and going deep into the PO, Sutton is probably gone. Players wise we need a big overhaul in the offseason I believe: new QB (Mahomes), new WR2, a couple of new OL, 2 interior DL, 1 pass rusher, 1 LB and 1 or 2 corners plus better depth in the back 7. By cutting Alex, DJ, Bailey, Tamba, Revis and Harris we would have 40M of cap. Add in Fisher (9,7M), Parker (6M) and/or Ford (8,7M) and you can go up to 63,7M. That's a lot of cap room to work with. 3 hours ago, mayanfootball said: I wonder if we could get a no.1 DP for Peters? Or a no.1 and a no.3 for Kelce? Or a 1,2 for T. Hill? We will suffer next year if we don't do some trading. Could we get a no.5 for Alex Smith? Why not just trade everyone play all rookies and cast off free agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 9 hours ago, Chiefs_5627 said: Thought this was interesting: Browns hired ex-Chiefs GM John Dorsey as general manager. The hiring — announced just 11 hours after the Browns fired executive vice president Sashi Brown — must have been in the works for some time. The Browns claimed Thursday evening that they had also satisfied the Rooney Rule by interviewing a minority candidate. It's arguably the best-case outcome for the Browns after they panicked and pulled the plug on their outside-the-box analytical approach (bad process). Aside from some salary cap issues in Kansas City, Dorsey had emerged as one of the league's top general managers before his stunning June firing. With Brown stockpiling draft picks and young talent, Dorsey has the skill to put the project over the top. His first order of business will be deciding on a 2018 quarterback plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I really like our offensive core going forward. There’s no way I’d break apart the skill spots in this offense, minus Smith and D. Harris. Free up some $$ by getting rid of Smith, Harris, DJ, Hali, and honestly Ford. Spend that on rejuvenating the D, draft picks should be 90% on D also... I’d always take a couple OL, but really the skill positions players are more than fine.. we just need someone to find them when they are open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, samsel23 said: I really like our offensive core going forward. There’s no way I’d break apart the skill spots in this offense, minus Smith and D. Harris. Free up some $$ by getting rid of Smith, Harris, DJ, Hali, and honestly Ford. Spend that on rejuvenating the D, draft picks should be 90% on D also... I’d always take a couple OL, but really the skill positions players are more than fine.. we just need someone to find them when they are open. Won't be many picks barring trades. We have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th currently. 5th went to Cleveland for Cam Erving and our 7th to the 49ers for Kenneth Acker. We have an undisclosed, conditional pick for Marcus Cooper from the Cardinals from the 2016 trade. I can't find anything on what it may be, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 13 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Why not just trade everyone play all rookies and cast off free agents? I don't think any team would take Peters for their no. 1 DP, but i'd do it in a heartbeat and get the best CB available that wants to cover AND tackle. If we could get 2 high DP's each for Kelce and Hill we could have ammo to re-tool the defense with 4 players and still have the next draft to replace on offense too. Think please. Next season, we'll not have Hali. Ford won't ever be the same. DJ is likely finished, same for Berry. That's 4 players that used to be the soul of our defense. Then we need to replace Gaines and others in the d.backfield. That's going to take some creativity. I don''t mind playing GOOD rookies. I don't care for FA's at all. You build with the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 9 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Won't be many picks barring trades. We have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th currently. 5th went to Cleveland for Cam Erving and our 7th to the 49ers for Kenneth Acker. We have an undisclosed, conditional pick for Marcus Cooper from the Cardinals from the 2016 trade. I can't find anything on what it may be, if anything. Coop wound up having a decent year for them last year so I wouldn't doubt it if we got something in return (maybe even higher than a 7th). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 34 minutes ago, mayanfootball said: I don't think any team would take Peters for their no. 1 DP, but i'd do it in a heartbeat and get the best CB available that wants to cover AND tackle. If we could get 2 high DP's each for Kelce and Hill we could have ammo to re-tool the defense with 4 players and still have the next draft to replace on offense too. Think please. Next season, we'll not have Hali. Ford won't ever be the same. DJ is likely finished, same for Berry. That's 4 players that used to be the soul of our defense. Then we need to replace Gaines and others in the d.backfield. That's going to take some creativity. I don''t mind playing GOOD rookies. I don't care for FA's at all. You build with the draft. You play too much Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGold Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 58 minutes ago, mayanfootball said: I don't think any team would take Peters for their no. 1 DP, but i'd do it in a heartbeat and get the best CB available that wants to cover AND tackle. If we could get 2 high DP's each for Kelce and Hill we could have ammo to re-tool the defense with 4 players and still have the next draft to replace on offense too. Think please. Next season, we'll not have Hali. Ford won't ever be the same. DJ is likely finished, same for Berry. That's 4 players that used to be the soul of our defense. Then we need to replace Gaines and others in the d.backfield. That's going to take some creativity. I don''t mind playing GOOD rookies. I don't care for FA's at all. You build with the draft. Trading Hill and Kelce makes no sense. Why not just use the next 2 drafts to work on the D? Instead of tearing apart the O to fix the D.... Your scenario is a 2 year fix if everything works out perfect, we already have the pieces on O in the second scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedLavie Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Yeah I can see a Peters trade happening but why would you trade the best TE in the NFL and a great young WR in his rookie deal. It just makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 13 hours ago, samsel23 said: draft picks should be 90% on D also.. We don't have a no.1 DP, which is one reason why we need to consider trading Kelce, Hill to get some high drafting capital. These 2 guys won't be worth more than they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Chiefs_5627 said: You play too much Madden. Never play video games. I have one eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayanfootball Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, samsel23 said: Trading Hill and Kelce makes no sense. Why not just use the next 2 drafts to work on the D? Instead of tearing apart the O to fix the D.... Your scenario is a 2 year fix if everything works out perfect, we already have the pieces on O in the second scenario We use the 5 high DP's we receive to replace Peters, Kelce, Hill and to re-tool the D. The '18 draft (and other 2pics leftover) can plug holes on both sides (D and O). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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