naptownskinsfan Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 9:58 PM, turtle28 said: Again, Chase ruptured his patella tendon & his torn ACL in the same year. It’s not true he just tore his ACL. It took him 13 months to return because he rip his patella tendon as well. Rivera using the media to put pressure on Chase to play before Chase was confident in his knee is really, really awful. https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/27/is-commanders-de-chase-youngs-injury-combo-rare-washington-nfl-doctor/ “Kevin Sheehan and guest Dr. Jesse Morse, MD discussed Young’s injury on Sheehan’s podcast Wednesday. Morse, a Board Certified Sports & Family Medicine physician in Miami, is a Cell Therapy Specialist at The Osteopathic Center. He follows sports, is known as “The Fantasy Doc” and has professionally helped many athletes. Here are some excerpts from Dr. Morse regarding his opinion of the Chase Young injury. With the link provided above the interview begins at 42:50. “Even a patellar tendon rupture in its isolation is a rough injury. Combining that with an ACL is a BIG deal. I don’t think I have ever heard of this combo together. I don’t know how he would even do it. It is a very strange combo.” “The Patellar tendon is the tendon that attaches the knee cap to your shin. Essentially it pulls down on the shin anytime you want to walk or anything. It is a weird combination of tearing that and the ACL at the same time.” Traditionally the ACL is going to be minimum of 9 months up to 12 months of rehab without any setbacks. The problem with an ACL tear by itself is you pretty much need to get started on rehab pretty quickly. But with the Patellar tendon you need 4 to 6 weeks of allowing it to heal before you can start pushing it. You can’t do both at the same time because that would obviously counteract what you are trying to do.” Yeah, all of this is why I’m not upset at any of his injury timelines. It was a perfect storm knee injury, and I think many knew if he came back at all, his potential would be diminished. That might still be the case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: Yeah, all of this is why I’m not upset at any of his injury timelines. It was a perfect storm knee injury, and I think many knew if he came back at all, his potential would be diminished. That might still be the case. Not judging off of 5 sacks in 7 games and with him being top 10 in pressures in the NFL. I think this once again gets back to the 5th year option. They made a bad decision by not giving it to him bc if they did they'd have more time to evaluate him before deciding to extend him or not. If Chase had continued to play like that for us the rest of this season we would’ve had a double-digit sack artist at the age of 24 under control for another season before having to decide to extend him. #FireRonRivera Edited November 10, 2023 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, turtle28 said: #FireRonRivera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 2:35 PM, turtle28 said: Not judging off of 5 sacks in 7 games and with him being top 10 in pressures in the NFL. I think this once again gets back to the 5th year option. They made a bad decision by not giving it to him bc if they did they'd have more time to evaluate him before deciding to extend him or not. If Chase had continued to play like that for us the rest of this season we would’ve had a double-digit sack artist at the age of 24 under control for another season before having to decide to extend him. #FireRonRivera I still think it’s a small sample size to judge him moving forward. He could very well not reach his potential for a variety of reasons. But you are right about the option. I still think he’s the highest risk/reward free agent this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, naptownskinsfan said: I still think it’s a small sample size to judge him moving forward. He could very well not reach his potential for a variety of reasons. But you are right about the option. I still think he’s the highest risk/reward free agent this off-season. 3 seasons of him having a strong impact his rookie year, this year & next year - if they had done the 5th year option - would've been plenty of time to evaluate him. At worst he would’ve had to be franchised like Payne while they worked out an LTD or maybe they get a contract done before like with Allen or like the Bears just did with Sweat before they'd become FAs. Edited November 12, 2023 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I don't see C Y listed in the game stats against the Seahawks. Sweat had a big game against the Vikes in a win . Sack and a half and a TFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: I don't see C Y listed in the game stats against the Seahawks. Sweat had a big game against the Vikes in a win . Sack and a half and a TFL Chase had 35 snaps (61.4% of total) in his first game. Chase had 48 snaps (67.6% of total) in his second game. Chase had 26 snaps (46.4% of total) against the Seahawks. In 3 games he has 3 tackles and 1.5 sacks with SF. His latest game where he was on the field almost 50% of the time, he failed to record a reportable stat. Interestingly enough, he never played a single ST snap while in Washington and he has played in at least 1 ST snap every week in SF. The most snaps came against the Seahawks at 4 snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Slappy Mc said: Chase had 35 snaps (61.4% of total) in his first game. Chase had 48 snaps (67.6% of total) in his second game. Chase had 26 snaps (46.4% of total) against the Seahawks. In 3 games he has 3 tackles and 1.5 sacks with SF. His latest game where he was on the field almost 50% of the time, he failed to record a reportable stat. Interestingly enough, he never played a single ST snap while in Washington and he has played in at least 1 ST snap every week in SF. The most snaps came against the Seahawks at 4 snaps. ST snaps. Likely rushing on FG and Extra pts. maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: ST snaps. Likely rushing on FG and Extra pts. maybe. Not sure. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounCh04/gamelog/2023/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted November 28, 2023 Author Share Posted November 28, 2023 59 minutes ago, Slappy Mc said: His latest game where he was on the field almost 50% of the time, he failed to record a reportable stat. I was wondering why this thread was so quiet the last week 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 That’s a shame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I think we're smart enough in this forum by now to know that stats don't always tell the entire story on how a player plays, especially a defensive lineman where it's not always easy to rack up a lot of stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, turtle28 said: I think we're smart enough in this forum by now to know that stats don't always tell the entire story on how a player plays, especially a defensive lineman where it's not always easy to rack up a lot of stats. Unless you’re Crosby or Watt or Hunter or Garrett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 19 hours ago, MikeT14 said: Unless you’re Crosby or Watt or Hunter or Garrett or...<insert other Defensive Linemen who have been able to rack up stats while also doing their jobs> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I heard on ESPN that since the 49ers traded for Chase Young that they've had 15 sacks as a defense & it looks like Bosa has had 5 the last 3 games since they got Chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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