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[minutemancl]

Top 6:
1. Josh Allen BUF 91.3
2. Dak Prescott DAL 90.8
3. Lamar Jackson BAL 90.3
4a. Brock Purdy SF 88.4
4b. Tua Tagovailoa MIA 88.4
6. Jalen Hurts PHI 86.4

Bottom 6:
1. Desmond Ridder ATL 51.9
2a. Mac Jones NE 52.2
2b. Bailey Zappe NE 52.2
4. Bryce Young CAR 56.0
5. Tyson Bagent CHI 57.4
6. Zach Wilson NYJ 58.2

RUNNINGBACK

Top 7:
1. De'Von Achane MIA 92.4
2. Christian McCaffrey SF 90.6
3. Derrick Henry TEN 90.4
4. James Conner ARI 89.2
5. Raheem Mostert MIA 87.5
6. Breece Hall NYJ 84.3
7. Kenneth Walker III SEA 83.5

Bottom 7:
1. Joshua Kelly LAC 52.0
2. Matt Breida NYG 52.4
3a. Kenneth Gainwell 55.5
3b. Ameer Abdullah LV 55.5
5. Jamaal Williams NO 59.4
6. Austin Ekeler LAC 60.2
7a. Miles Sanders CAR 60.8
7b. Michael Carter ARI 60.8

FULLBACK

Top 5:
1. Michael Burton DEN 64.2
2. Patrick Ricard BAL 62.1
3. Reggie Gilliam BUF 61.9
4. Hunter Luepke 61.8
5. C.J. Ham MIN 57.6

Bottom 5:
1. Adam Prentice NO 38.1
2. Jason Cabinda DETT 41.9
3. Jakob Johnson LV 46.1
4. Keith Smith ATL 47.2
5. Alec Ingold MIA 47.4

WIDE RECEIVER

Top 8:
1. Tyreek Hill MIA 93.7
2. Brandon Aiyuk SF 92.3
3a. CeeDee Lamb DAL 91.1
3b. Justin Jefferson MIN 91.1
5. Nico Collins HOU 91.0
6. Jaylen Waddle MIA 90.7
7. Amon-Ra St. Brown DET 90.6
8. A.J. Brown PHI 90.0

Bottom 8:
1. Xavier Hutchinson HOU 46.9
2. Jason Brownlee NYJ 47.7
3. Hunter Renfrow LV 48.6
4. Van Jefferson ATL 50.1
5. Lynn Bowden NO 50.3
6. Marquez Valdes-Scantling KC 50.4
7. Trey Palmer TB 51.3
8. Jalen Reagor NE 51.4

TIGHT END

Top 6:
1. George Kittle SF 87.6
2. Mark Andrews BAL 80.0
3. T.J. Hockenson MIN 78.8
4. Travis Kelce 78.6
5. Marcedes Lewis CHI 77.3
6. Sam LaPorta DET 76.4

Bottom 6:
1. Julian Hill MIA 40.9
2. Stone Smartt LAC 44.1
3. Irv Smith Jr. CIN 44.2
4. Hayden Hurst CAR 44.7
5. Brock Wright DET 45.6
6. Brenton Strange JAX 48.6

OFFENSIVE TACKLE

Top 7:
1. Penei Sewell DET 90.7
2. Trent Williams SF 89.7
3. Jordan Mailata PHI 84.1
4. Tyron Smith DAL 83.8
5. Braden Smith IND 83.3
6. Christian Darrisaw MIN 82.4
7. Bernhard Raimann IND 82.3

Bottom 7:
1. Jaelyn Duncan TEN 32.9
2. Evan Neal NYG 39.8
3. Vederian Lowe NE 41.7
4. Geron Christian CLE 43.2
5. Blake Freeland IND 44.2
6. James Hudson III CLE 46.8
7. Carter Warren NYJ 46.9

OFFENSIVE GUARD

Top 7:
1. Chris Lindstrom ATL 87.6
2. Kevin Dotson LAR 85.2
3. Quinn Meinerz DEN 83.8
4. Jon Feliciano SF 81.2
5. Sam Cosmi WAS 80.6
6. Robert Hunt MIA 77.1
7. Greg Van Roten LV 75.3

Bottom 7:
1. Chandler Zavala CAR 26.2
2. Atonio Mafi NE 32.3
3. Nash Jensen CAR 34.7
4. Chris Paul WAS 38.8
5. Justin Pugh NYG 41.6
6. Ben Bredeson NYG 42.1
7. Cody Mauch TB 44.7

CENTER

Top 5:
1. Frank Ragnow DET 88.1
2. Connor Williams MIA 86.5
3. Drew Dalman ATL 82.3
4. Jason Kelce PHI 80.7
5. Erik McCoy NO 79.4

Bottom 5:
1. John Michael Schmitz NYG 41.4
2. Luke Fortner JAX 44.3
3. Liam Eichenberg MIA 46.7
4. Connor McGovern NYJ 48.5
5. Tyler Larsen WAS 50.3

CORNERBACK

Top 7:
1. Jaylon Johnson CHI 90.8
2. DaRon Bland DAL 90.4
3. Sauce Gardner NYJ 88.6
4. Devon Witherspoon SEA 84.1
5. Kendall Fuller WAS 83.1
6. Trent McDuffie KC 82.9
7. Charvarius Ward SF 82.6

Bottom 7:
1. J.C. Jackson NE 34.8
2. Damarri Mathis DEN 35.2
3. Marco Wilson NE 41.7
4. Jakorian Bennett LV 42.4
5. Tre Avery TEN 44.2
6. C.J. Henderson CAR 45.4
7. Alontae Taylor 45.7

SAFETY

Top 7:
1. Antoine Winfield Jr. TB 91.2
2. Jessie Bates III ATL 90.6
3. Jevon Holland MIA 90.4
4. Xavier McKinney NYG 87.8
5. Jabrill Peppers NE 87.3
6. Alohi Gilman LAC 86.1
7. Kyle Hamilton BAL 86.0

Bottom 7:
1. Nick Scott CIN 41.6
2. Jayron Kearse DAL 43.1
3. Anthony Johnson Jr. 45.6
4. Elijah Hicks 46.2
5. Ryan Neal TB 49.7
6. Richie Grant ATL 51.5
7. Dax Hill CIN 51.6

LINEBACKER

Top 7:
1. Fred Warner SF 90.1
2. Demario Davis NO 89.6
3. Tyrel Dodson BUF 89.5
4. Jahlani Tavai NE 86.5
5. Blake Cashman HOU 83.7
6. C.J. Mosley NYJ 82.9
7. Bobby Wagner SEA 82.4

Bottom 7:
1. Josh Woods ARI 31.8
2. Henry To'oTo'o HOU 41.7
3. Devin White TB 46.0
4. Kamu Grugier-Hill CAR 48.6
5. Christian Rozeboom LAR 49.0
6a. Mykal Walker PIT 52.9
6b. Kenneth Murray Jr. LAC 52.9

"INTERIOR DEFENDER"

Top 7:
1. Dexter Lawrence NYG 93.0
2. Aaron Donald LAR 90.9
3. Quinnen Williams NYJ 90.6
4. Derrick Brown CAR 90.1
5. Jalen Carter PHI 89.0
6. Alim McNeill DET 88.5
7. Chris Jones KC 84.1

Bottom 7:
1. Eric Johnson IND 30.5
2. Jordan Phillips BUF 35.8
3. Jonathan Ledbetter ARI 36.2
4. Scott Matlock LAC 36.8
5. Solomon Thomas NYJ 37.1
6. Benito Jones DET 37.4
7. Kyle Peko TEN 38.6

"EDGE DEFENDER"

Top 7:
1. Myles Garrett CLE 93.6
2a. Micah Parsons DAL 92.7
2b. Nick Bosa SF 92.7
4. Maxx Crosby LV 92.0
5. T.J. Watt PIT 91.9
6. Khalil Mack LAC 91.8
7. Demarcus Lawrence DAL 91.3

Bottom 7:
1. Pat Jones II MIN 37.9
2. Yannick Ngakoue CHI 39.9
3a. Jihad Ward NYG 42.4
3b. Dawuane Smoot JAX 42.4
5. Derick Hall SEA 44.4
6. Randy Gregory SF 45.5
7. Tyree Wilson LV 47.1

KICKER

Top 5:
1. Chase McLaughlin TB 92.0
2. Jake Elliott PHI 91.5
3. Cameron Dicker LAC 90.9
4. Brandon Aubrey DAL 90.6
5. Harrison Butker KC 90.3

Bottom 5:
1. Chad Ryland NE 38.2
2. Mason Crosby NYG 39.0
3. Lucas Havrisik LAR 39.6
4. Brett Maher LAR 46.2
5. Anders Carlson GB 46.8

PUNTER

Top 5:
1. Bradley Pinion ATL 88.3
2. Bryan Anger DAL 86.9
3. A.J. Cole LV 83.6
4. Michael Dickson SEA 80.0
5. Corey Bojorquez CLE 79.4

Bottom 5:
1. Ty Zentner TEN 46.9
2. Tress Way WAS 50.7
3. Pressley Harvin III PIT 51.2
4. Lou Hedley NO 56.2
5. Brad Robbins CIN 56.7

Per PFF, we finished the season with:

2nd worst RB (backup)

2nd worst Tackle (starter)

The 5th and 6th worst guards (starters)

The worst Center (starter)

The 3rd worst Edge rusher (backup)

The 4th best Safety

And best interior defender

in the NFL. 4/5 offensive linemen were in the top 6 WORST players at their positions in the entire NFL. That has to get fixed this offseason. Has to. Also, we don't have enough talent to be able to afford to let a guy like McKinney walk. Offer him a big money contract and keep him.

[Acgott]

He’ll probably get another HC job, but dream for DC.

[minutemancl]

18 minutes ago, Acgott said:

He’ll probably get another HC job, but dream for DC.

Vrabel goes to NE as head coach, Bill comes to be our new DC.

[MaddHatter]

49 minutes ago, minutemancl said:

Vrabel goes to NE as head coach, Bill comes to be our new DC.

If Bill stays in the NFL, I imagine it as a consultant or FO pos

[minutemancl]

1 minute ago, MaddHatter said:

If Bill stays in the NFL, I imagine it as a consultant or FO pos

Most likely, he becomes a HC somewhere else. I think he'd do well in Atlanta, honestly. That was a half joking dream suggestion I made originally.

[MaddHatter]

1 minute ago, minutemancl said:

Most likely, he becomes a HC somewhere else. I think he'd do well in Atlanta, honestly. That was a half joking dream suggestion I made originally.

Nah - at 70 I think he’s done if he doesn’t stay in NE.  (And yeah I figured, haha)

[minutemancl]

We've got the resources to improve this offseason, we just have to see it through.

[Acgott]

The Giants have been blocking by 3 teams already for their ST Coordinator position.Falcons, Panthers, Chargers, despite them not having a head coach.

[Acgott]

 

[Acgott]

Messy messy messy. Daboll needs a chill pill and Kafka may leave as well.

[minutemancl]

https://x.com/BrettKollmann/status/1747108228352315820?s=20

God, this is so true though. Please get a quarterback this year. 

[Shockwave]

Such a mess although I'm not sure how much I trust Pat Leonard on this. The whole story to me just feels like it came from "sources" sympathetic to Wink. Replacing two coordinators won't be easy but if they promote Henderson to DC at least there is some continuity on D. I'd honestly just prefer Daboll called the offense at this point. If he truly is undermining and taking control away from the OC then he just needs to take it over or find a guy he trusts to do it. If Kafka does leave this makes what.. 4 different OC's for Jones? (Shula, Garrett, Kafka)? Man I hate being stuck in the ruts like this. I really thought last year was a breakout for us going forward. 

[Acgott]

4 hours ago, Shockwave said:

Such a mess although I'm not sure how much I trust Pat Leonard on this. The whole story to me just feels like it came from "sources" sympathetic to Wink. Replacing two coordinators won't be easy but if they promote Henderson to DC at least there is some continuity on D. I'd honestly just prefer Daboll called the offense at this point. If he truly is undermining and taking control away from the OC then he just needs to take it over or find a guy he trusts to do it. If Kafka does leave this makes what.. 4 different OC's for Jones? (Shula, Garrett, Kafka)? Man I hate being stuck in the ruts like this. I really thought last year was a breakout for us going forward. 

Dan Duggan was discussing it today. He mentioned that he couldn’t confirm the exact details, but did say there were issues with Kafka and Daboll. He did mention to take into account the source and potential axes to grind when looking at all stories such as this. Good listen.

https://theathletic.com/podcast/261-nfl-live-rooms/?episode=85

[Acgott]

 

[Acgott]