ravens5520 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: The more I think about it, I think this OL is fine: LT Stanley LG Mekari C Linderbaum RG Cleveland RT Moses We need T depth for sure, and eventual T replacements. But just for this one year it's fine. If we have the opportunity to add a great player we should do it, but there is no hole. Having Mekari as a versatile swing OL is a nice luxury, but when you are tight against the cap, if he is making good money he needs to be starting. I like him as the pulling LG with Cleveland with power on the right. IMO our QB, TE, WR, and OL all have starting caliber players at each position on the roster now. The major hole is RB. Deep Deep rookie draft for offensive linemen. Curious to see if we jump early or attempt mid round additions. I'd prefer to see an early investment into a prospect who is ready to step in tomorrow if needed. Then draft pass rush or CB help between our first 2 selections. Daniel Faalele could be our wildcard at RT this season allowing Moses to be cut. He was a project when drafted, but damn the man is 6'8" with a huge frame. He needed to redefine his side to side mobility to keep up with speed rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobellythrower Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 15 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: LT Stanley LG Mekari C Linderbaum RG Cleveland RT Moses Moses was playing through injury, Ben looked good at rg, Lindy is good, but the left side needs tweak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yeah I think this season was like case study #4 or 5 as to how important a good OL is to Lamar - way more important than having a subpar line and great position players. When Lamar has time and feels comfortable he’s night and day as a player and can make the Nelson Agholors and Willie Sneeds and old OBJs of the world look like legit receiving options. His mobility and game vision allows him to eventually find someone open downfield when he can stand in the pocket and manipulate the defense. In years/games with a bad OL he plays like a deer in the headlights and rushes everything and misses easy throws because he gets panicky. Would much rather invest in OL in the draft early than just run it back and pray for health with a Stanley-Mekari-Linderbaum-Cleveland-Moses line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I would much rather draft BPA than force pick the best OL. When the Ravens draft BPA they get Hamilton and Linderbaum. When they draft for need they get Oweh and Bateman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, AngusMcFife said: I would much rather draft BPA than force pick the best OL. When the Ravens draft BPA they get Hamilton and Linderbaum. When they draft for need they get Oweh and Bateman. I’m not suggesting forcing an OL pick. By all accounts this OL draft is loaded. I’m simply pushing back on the notion that this OL is “good enough for a year” especially how drastic we’ve seen the offense run with a great vs mediocre vs bad OL. BPA should obviously be the approach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 17 hours ago, Ray Reed said: I’m not suggesting forcing an OL pick. By all accounts this OL draft is loaded. I’m simply pushing back on the notion that this OL is “good enough for a year” especially how drastic we’ve seen the offense run with a great vs mediocre vs bad OL. BPA should obviously be the approach I think we agree that there is work to be done on the OL. My overall point though is that we conceivably have starters at every position, so there is no glaring hole that must be filled. If the starting 5 is Stanley/Mekari/Lindy/Cleveland/Moses and we draft a good T who is rotating in and will take over as starter in 2025, that'd be good. If our main backup T is Faalele, that's a problem. I'm not really sure what to make of the G situation, since Sala and Voorhees have potential but are unknown. My approach going into 2024 is that the Ravens will not be a juggernaut, but should try to be a 10 or 11 win team that gets hot for the playoffs. Based on their player and coaching turnover while not having much cap room, this team will have some growing pains. Unless Lamar takes another leap in year 2 of Monken and goes nuclear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 24 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: I think we agree that there is work to be done on the OL. My overall point though is that we conceivably have starters at every position, so there is no glaring hole that must be filled. If the starting 5 is Stanley/Mekari/Lindy/Cleveland/Moses and we draft a good T who is rotating in and will take over as starter in 2025, that'd be good. If our main backup T is Faalele, that's a problem. I'm not really sure what to make of the G situation, since Sala and Voorhees have potential but are unknown. My approach going into 2024 is that the Ravens will not be a juggernaut, but should try to be a 10 or 11 win team that gets hot for the playoffs. Based on their player and coaching turnover while not having much cap room, this team will have some growing pains. Unless Lamar takes another leap in year 2 of Monken and goes nuclear. Vorhees is one of the players i’m most intrigued to watch next preseason. He hasn’t played football in 2 years essentially but if next year could be a ramp-up year for him and he gets back to where he was he could be our starting RG in 2025 and 2026. Would be a great value pick if it turns out that way 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodgyman5220 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/24/2024 at 1:00 PM, Ray Reed said: Vorhees is one of the players i’m most intrigued to watch next preseason. He hasn’t played football in 2 years essentially but if next year could be a ramp-up year for him and he gets back to where he was he could be our starting RG in 2025 and 2026. Would be a great value pick if it turns out that way I imagine he’s in the competition for one of the starting guard spots. His injury should be well behind him heading into camp this year. If I’m not mistaken he was scheduled to be a second round pick before the injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordinator0 Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 Updates on Baltimore's free agent class so far: Arthur Maulet Brent Urban Dalvin Cook Daryl Worley Del'Shawn Phillips Devin Duvernay - Jacksonville Jaguars, 2 years $8.5 million ($12.5 million max) Geno Stone - Cincinnati Bengals - 2 years, $15 million Gus Edwards - Los Angeles Chargers - 2 years, ??? J.K. Dobbins Jadeveon Clowney John Simpson Josh Johnson Justin Madubuike - Baltimore Ravens - 4 years, $98 million Kevin Zeitler Kyle Van Noy Malik Harrison - Baltimore Ravens - 1 year, ??? Patrick Queen Ronald Darby - Jacksonville Jaguars, 2 years $10 million max Sam Mustipher Tyler Huntley Tyler Ott Rock Ya-Sin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 RIP to the gus bus bit yeah we can't afford everyone lol. Wanna see huntley and Zeitler come back, maybe Clowney if the price is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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baltimoreRebel Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, coordinator0 said: Love it. He's a solid player for us and I'm glad to have him back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 hours ago, baltimoreRebel said: Love it. He's a solid player for us and I'm glad to have him back. He would be much more popular/well known if we were in the 2000-2012ish era of football when guys like Jarrett Johnson got their respect. Malik is rock solid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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baltimoreRebel Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Looks like Brent Urban is coming back. Solid as a player can get. Always seems to be there when you need him. Glad he's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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