Pugger Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I think that's a discussion of the merits and criteria of the MVP award. If the definition of the award is "What player most exceeded the average performance of his position?" it probably should have been Watt. If the definition of the award is "What player is most valuable to his team?" It should only be QBs, and QBs without a good backup should be eliminated from contention. But none of these definitions are true, because the definition changes year to year in order to fit a narrative. This is the problem with this award. There is no definition. It has been a QB award lately but I don't think I'd get many to disagree that the QB is often the most important offensive player on a roster and why pass rushers are so coveted. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 hours ago, 15412 said: You don't see the forest for the trees. Rodg can not know all of his options if those options aren't pursued. He may want to know his potential destinations in the scheme of things before he makes that decision. For all we know Murph and Gute (as they should anyway) may want to know those potential options too. Rodg along with the Packer front office may be very inviting to that very idea. Either side can always say no, it costs nothing to window shop. Can other teams approach another team with inquiries about a player under contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnypackerfan Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pugger said: Can other teams approach another team with inquiries about a player under contract? I do believe so....they are inquiring whether or not the Packers would want to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: You're wrong I was being sardonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pugger said: Can other teams approach another team with inquiries about a player under contract? Yes. However, they cannot approach a player under contract about wanting to acquiring them without the teams consent. I believe the Packers thought Shanahan did this last off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 30 minutes ago, OzPackfan said: You do that deal for Rodgers and this deal for Adams: 2022 - 45m signing bonus, 1.5m salary, 1.5m game day bonus, 12m cap hit 2023 - 7.5m salary, 1.5m game day bonus, 18m cap hit 2024 - 17.5m salary, 1.5 game day bonus, 28m cap hit 2025 - 20m salary, 13.5 roster bonus, 42.5m cap hit 2026 - void year, 9m dead cap charge Both of these contracts have an out after the 2024 season (save 55m in cap space) where you release/trade them and then the Packers take 2025 as a tank year This plan still gives you the nucleus to compete for the next 3 years and hopefully win a ring or 2 if lucky You think Adams is taking that deal when so much of his money is tied to playing each game. LOL, his agent would never touch that deal. Every NFL player is one play away from their career being over. He's only guaranteed 45 million. He's going to want somewhere closer to 75 million guaranteed, like salary in year 2 and 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, Pugger said: Can other teams approach another team with inquiries about a player under contract? Of course. They can not talk to the player without permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Aaron Jones restructured. How much cap relief did we get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Old Guy said: Can you name a year in Rodgers' career where he gave up money for anybody to stay? I'll wait for an answer! FYI, Brady did it, lots. I dont know if Rodgers ever gave up money for another player? Brady has taken less, but its much easier when your wife is bringing in $30 mill a year and has a new worth of $400 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Aaron Jones restructured. How much cap relief did we get? Acme Packing - A day after restructuring Kenny Clark’s contract to move nearly $11 million in cap space out of 2022, the Green Bay Packers are at it again with anther member of the roster. On Thursday it was Aaron Jones getting a signing bonus with a restructured deal in a move that will push about $3 million of his 2022 salary cap hit into future years. As with the news of Clark’s contract adjustment, ESPN’s Field Yates was the first to report the news on Jones. On Jones’ existing contract, which runs through 2024, Green Bay was due to pay a roster bonus of $3.75 million in mid-March. That money plus a bit more of his base salary was moved into a signing bonus. The Packers also added two void years to his deal in 2025 and 2026, allowing them to spread the roughly $3.8 million over five years. While the move will keep Jones’ cap number below $6 million for 2022, it will swell to over $20 million in 2023, a number that will surely be untenable for a running back who has dealt with nagging injuries. Jones is still only 27 years old and will not turn 30 until December of 2024, but he has dealt with numerous knee injuries throughout his five-year NFL career and has missed at least two games in four of those seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Aaron Jones restructured. How much cap relief did we get? 3 Mil. 20 mil hit next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: I dont know if Rodgers ever gave up money for another player? Brady has taken less, but its much easier when your wife is bringing in $30 mill a year and has a new worth of $400 mill. And when your shady company is also getting paid on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Acme Packing - The fact that general manager Brian Gutekunst already has multiple offers for Rodgers suggests that he may be able to play those offers against one another to drive up the price for acquiring Rodgers. That would surely need to involve NFL-ready players in addition to a massive haul of draft picks, as an NFL player has never been traded following a season in which he won the MVP award. Of course, the idea of a trade assumes two things: first, that Rodgers still wants to play but no longer wants to be in Green Bay; and second, that the Packers are willing to grant a trade request. It is also notable, as Rodgers acknowledged when he returned to Green Bay for training camp in 2021, that the Packers never agreed to trade him this offseason as a condition of his return. The Packers still maintain Rodgers’ contract rights for 2022, so he cannot unilaterally force his way out of Green Bay should the Packers not want to trade him away. Nor can Rodgers dictate a destination on his own even if the Packers did agree to trade him. The threat of retirement and the cap hit of Rodgers’ contract (approximately $46 million) are his only points of leverage. When Rodgers does announce his decision, the storyline will enter its next chapter. But even though teams may be lining up to try to acquire him, the Packers still hold most of the cards in the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzPackfan Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, Old Guy said: You think Adams is taking that deal when so much of his money is tied to playing each game. LOL, his agent would never touch that deal. Every NFL player is one play away from their career being over. He's only guaranteed 45 million. He's going to want somewhere closer to 75 million guaranteed, like salary in year 2 and 3. Packers normally structure deals with workout bonuses and gameday bonuses. I can easily see it being split 650k workout bonus, 850k gameday (50k per game) bonus. As for guaranteed money, you can guarantee the salary in years 1 and 2 and that gets him to 54m guaranteed (that's nearly 50% of the total money which is about average for a packers contract) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, NFLGURU said: I dont know if Rodgers ever gave up money for another player? Brady has taken less, but its much easier when your wife is bringing in $30 mill a year and has a new worth of $400 mill. Yeah, I'm sure it's been tough for Rodgers to get by on the paltry salary he's made in his NFL career. The answer is NO, he hasn't and based on the 50 million a year he's not taking less for Adams or any of his other teammates. Trade his *** and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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