SemperFeist Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 29 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: I was making a general statement, should Case always throw to Treadwell (#4), when he has single coverage, and never go to Rudolph (#3), diggs (#2), Thielen (#1). Cause people believe it's the wrong read and it must go to Treadwell cause he has cover zero. The concept of reading a defense is apparently lost on you. Because when you have the safety in 0 coverage and a receiver one on one with a corner in off coverage, that should become your primary read. Regardless of who the receiver is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, Purplexing said: Any option other than the safer option is as good as the 99th best option. Throwing a 5 yard out route to the opposite side of the field is a farther, and more difficult throw than a 15 yard post route up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 30 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: I would say that throwing a post route into the end zone to an open receiver against off coverage has a high probability of scoring than throwing a 5 yard out route to the far side of the field. I actually think the play was designed for Rudolph and he was running some cross action designed to get him open. He had to be the first read since he was supposed to be open early. Treadwell had a longer developing route and if Rudolph wasn’t open, Case could make a progression to Treadwell. One the other hand if you start on Treadwell and move to Rudolph he’s already past his window created by the cross action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Purplexing said: A throw to a TE underneath is safer than a deeper throw where the reaction of the deep safety is unknown. there was no safety playing near Treadwell, so i'd say that outcome was pretty much known. did you watch the play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 And anyway, you guys are complaining about a play that got a first down just because Treadwell was single covered, as if Treadwell has somehow established he's a sure thing beating single coverage. Treadwell didn't break open until after Case had thrown the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 55 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: The concept of reading a defense is apparently lost on you. Because when you have the safety in 0 coverage and a receiver one on one with a corner in off coverage, that should become your primary read. Regardless of who the receiver is. Disagree, you still factor in who your throwing the ball to. Case could very well decided against that throw and instead go to his more reliable target picking up the first down. The concept of reading a defense and still making a successful decision is lost on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 i can't even decide what to respond to here. The point here is that Keenum missed a TD throw. Whether that is because of a poor pre snap read, inability to move through a progression, or doesn't trust Treadwell, he missed an open TD. An argument against that is "agenda driven". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Disagree, you still factor in who your throwing the ball to. Case could very well decided against that throw and instead go to his more reliable target picking up the first down. The concept of reading a defense and still making a successful decision is lost on you He literally didn't look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: He literally didn't look. I'm sure he knew who was out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, CriminalMind said: Does a ring matter in this regard? It doesn't. Your talk is weak Way to miss the point. Are you really trying to make a comparison between Big Ben and Keenum? Like Keenum has been good enough to garner the same benefit of the doubt that Big Ben has garnered? And somehow I'm the one with an agenda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: I'm sure he knew who was out there. Watch the game/play again. He didn't look. Had he looked it would have been worse, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: i can't even decide what to respond to here. The point here is that Keenum missed a TD throw. Whether that is because of a poor pre snap read, inability to move through a progression, or doesn't trust Treadwell, he missed an open TD. An argument against that is "agenda driven". Sounds like someone doesn't know the meaning of "agenda driven". Don't use words that are above your understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 This isn't going anywhere. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: I'm sure he knew who was out there. Of course he knew who was there & most likely the pre snap look. Denying him that, is quite foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: Sounds like someone doesn't know the meaning of "agenda driven". Don't use words that are above your understanding. Neat. Maybe you need a refresher on the forum rules? Could you be more demeaning? Go Vikings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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