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I still don't see it with Peart due to his balance and contact balance issues, but great call on Hunt many months ago. I've seen the light. Especially for a zone blocking scheme.

So much pop off the ball. Tremendous competitive fire. Has length; has power when he plays with leverage. Unfortunately, he plays out of control and doesn't rush with a plan which puts him awkward and unbalanced positions where he gets dominated and destroyed via highlight reel OLine blocks too often for a high-level prospect. The good news is if he's a committed worker that loves the game teaching him plans of attack and helping him control his explosiveness and berserker ability could go a long way toward making him a pro-bowl talent. He has so much length as well but has no clue how to use it to his advantage as he rushes into bear hugs and doesn't understand how to use leverage to his advantage. There's a difference between not having yet been taught how to master and apply one's raw talent and being taught how to but unable to apply the lessons. Assuming that Kinlaw is the former (I've assumed he is), I've discussed him as one of the central players to target in a trade down from 10. Ultimately, I think he still goes 12 to 20 no matter how his Senior Bowl turns out. Berserker style rushes are flashy and stand out in the Senior Bowl, but the scouts that watch all his games know well that those traits get him in a lot of trouble. I love the guy. Has all the intangibles and want to, but not the technique. Can he learn and apply it? If so, he's going to be high quality pro-bowl level impact player for many years to come.

Lol. I totally missed that. I fixed it so now round 1 ends with New Orleans getting Laviska Shenault, WR Colorado and Kansas City selecting Yetur Gross-Matos, DE Penn State: Yeah, I wasn't really sure what those trade parameters should be with the VIkings trade. I pushed the value to next year just because a prior trade already accrued extra draft capital for this yea, but I definitely see your point.

1.) I think we remember prime Desean Jackson much differently, but even still the comparison I have for Reagor is Tyler Lockett of the Seattle Seahawks except faster, twitchier, and with better athletic ability to high point the ball (when the ball is thrown his way. I think once he gets to the pros he's going to give everything that Lockett does. Will OBJ and Jarvis be here 2 years from now? What will their play quality be like? To me, I'm against taking a WR early unless as it was in this case we're able to address our OLine needs first and/or receive trade down value before the WR selection.We agree over the WR position depth and why it would on its face disregard holistic draft value to take a WR in the 1st. In this scenario, given the birds-eye view of what's accomplished as the overall strategy value is just too good to pass on. 2.) We all agree that OT and OLIne are our #1 needs, but what I'm proposing is that based on what we'll doing primarily as an offense Jack Driscoll and Robert Hunt are better prospects than Mekhi Becton and others rated lower than them on my ZBS OT rankings. Therefore, trading down then selecting them both would not be overlooking a priority need, but instead targeting that need with particular players while at the same time maximizing the value of a trade down that allows the acquisition of future present and future draft capital. Therefore, I don't see the trade down and passing up of players like Wirfs and Becton as missing out on something per se. I'm back on the Wirfs is only a Guard and not a Tackle train. Even at ZBS Tackle, I now see Driscoll and Hunt as better Tackle prospects even though I still see Wirfs as special player. With Becton, unlike others I never saw him as worthy of a top 10 pick and have discussed why in other posts. He's a great, eye-popping prospect who certainly worth a top 40 if not top 25 selection. I have no doubt that he can be a solid ZBS Tackle, but ZBS is so much about moving well in one direction (Becton can do this), but about the ability to initially move horizontally down the line with quickness, agility and power toward a blocking landmark then suddenly flip one's hips a different or opposite direction to wall off a defender or defender(s) at the 1st or second level (Becton is not proficient in this skill). There are various other ZBS skills that he's not as good as Driscoll and Hunt at imo some of which have to do with his recognition and processing ability while on the move. He's a great man-blocking prospect with high high upside just not the desirable ZBS player. 3.) It's all about Jedrick Wills Jr. and then Andrew Thomas. For what we need and the quality of player available, Wills steals the show. He's already a pro-bowl caliber amazing as a power forward blocker and lockdown pass protector, but his abilities and play traits translate to super star level as a ZBS Tackle. If he's there you take him and never worry about trading down. Andrew Thomas as well although I'm not as high and he needs a lot of development (he has the tools though). 4.) We would be taking some risks by waiting for our guys to get to the 1st third of the 2nd round, but that's why I specified a trade up if necessary. In this scenario, we certainly acquired some extra draft capital to do so without too much of a cost. I do think it's realistic that Driscoll and Hunt both make it to those picks as their will be other standard scheme Tackles available (at least in this scenario) that teams will likely covet over Driscoll and Hunt during the customary run of 5 OLineman at the top of round 2. I think the run in round 2 is likely going to be guard and center centric with players like Solomon Kindley, Shane Lemieux, and Tyler Biadasz coming off the board quickly. Prince Tega-Wanogho, Josh Jones, and Isaiah Wilson will be the Tackles that will come off the board before Hunt and Driscoll if there is a run on Tackles at the top of round 2.

I remember when the Browns hired Andrew Berry a week before the Senior Bowl, and how it created no time at all to bring on a few supplemental scouts, and We're a week later than that time. Although we're hiring Paton before week's end, he's going to have an extremely short amount of time to get his systems and process implemented. Paton has more experience than Berry, but Berry was a main lead in draft prep and pro personnel roster building before he arrived so there's really only so much experience can do to overcome the abbreviated draft prep time. It wouldn't surprise me if Stefanksi and Paton have spent the last week getting on the same page with what Kevin wants at various positions. That takes a lot of time to get on the same page with specified traits list and intended use, and personality/emotional traits. They may have had such conversations in the past, but Zimmer's desires are certainly different in many aspects than Sefanski. He also is going to need to keep things very very close to the vest until he can bring in people who he can trust because I have no doubts that after Dorsey's firing there are going to be numerous scouts that are looking to get off the ship.

Assistant GM since 2011 for a well-respected, competent GM. Indeed, that is a very very strong candidate for the Browns GM Position. There was no better candidate than John Dorsey. His failures were more so regarding collaboration/communication (i.e., This is part of what got him fired in KC), overall team-building philosophy (i.e., relying on the unreliable), and issues with flexible/forward thinking approaches. Assuming Paton is more of a flexible and forward thinker that can collaborate or utilize analytical thinking to craft draft and roster-building strategies (analytics), then I'm excited for it. I hope he has a different approach to Spielman when it comes to positional value, overall draft strategy maximization, salary cap management, and willingness to trade down in early rounds to maximize value. Spielman loves trading up in early rounds and hates to trade down early on, but loves trading down in mid to late rounds.

We've come all this way with the nerds.... let's cross the finish line... Andrew Berry where art thou?

2020 Browns Zone-Blocking, Value-Maximization Draft Strategy 1st Round & Beyond Mock if Wills, Thomas, & Okudah are off the Board: 1.) Bengals -- Joe Burrow, QB LSU 2.) Washington -- Chase Young, DE Ohio State 3.) Dolphins (Via Lions) -- Tua Tagovailoa, QB Alabama 4.) Giants -- Andrew Thomas, LT Georgia 5.) Lions (Via Dolphins) -- Jeffrey Okudah, CB Ohio State 6.) Chargers -- Isaiah Simmons, LB Clemson 7.) Panthers -- Jedrick Wills Jr, RT Alabama 8.) Cardinals -- CeeDee Lamb, WR Oklahoma 9.) Jaguars -- Jerry Jeudy, WR Alabama 10.) Jaguars (Via Browns) -- Justin Herbert, QB Oregon 11.) Jets -- Mekhi Becton, OT Lousiville 12.) Raiders -- AJ Epenesa, DE Iowa 13.) Colts -- Derrick Brown, NT Colts 14.) Tampa Bay -- Henry Ruggs, WR Alabama 15.) Broncos -- Kristian Fulton, CB LSU 16.) Atlanta -- Trevon Diggs, CB Alabama 17.) Dallas -- Xavier Mckinney, FS/SS Alabama 18.) Dolphins (Via Steelers) -- Tristan Wirfs, OG/OT Iowa 19.) Raiders (Via Bears) -- Ashtyn Davis, FS California 20.) Vikings (Via Browns; Via Jaguars) -- Javon Kinlaw, DT South Carolina 21.) Eagles -- Justin Jefferson, WR LSU 22.) Buffalo -- Jaylon Johnson, CB Utah 23.) New England -- Netane Muti, OG/OT/OC Fresno St. 24.) New Orleans -- Laviska Shenault, WR Colordao 25.) Browns ( Via Vikings) -- Jalen Reagor, WR TCU (WR Selection Not Ideal; Tremendous Underutilzed Pro-Bowl Talent; Value is Just too Amazing to Pass On) 26.) Dolphins (Via Texans) -- Isaiah Wilson, RT Georgia 27.) Seattle -- Bryce Hall, CB Virginia 28.) Ravens -- Jordan Elliot, DT Missouri 29.) Titans -- Julian Okwara, DE/OLB Notre Dame 30.) Packers -- Tee Higgins, WR Clemson 31.) Kansas City -- Yetur Gross-Matos, DE Penn State 32.) 49ers -- Jauan Jennings, WR Tennessee -------------------- Browns Trades Summary: 1.) Trade from 10th to 20th via Jaguars. Receive -- 2020: 2 Round Pick (42) & 4th Round Pick (116) & 2021: 2nd Round Pick & 4th Round Pick 2.) Trade from 20th to 25th via Vikings. Receive -- 2020: 4th Round Pick & 2021: 5th Round Pick ------------------ Browns Full Value-Maximization "My Guys" Draft: 1(25). Jalen Reagor, WR TCU 2(41). (Trade Up in the 2nd if We Must to get him) Robert Hunt, ZB-OT Louisiana-Lafayette 2(42). (Trade Up in the 2nd if We Must to get him) Jack Driscoll, ZB-RT Auburn 3. Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS Minnesota 3. Zach Baun, Hybrid-LB Wisconsin 4. (Trade Up Some if We Must to get him) Thaddeus Moss, TE LSU 4. (Trade Up Some if We Must to get him) Ross Blacklock, DT TCU 4. Troy Dye, Hybrid-LB Oregon // Malik Harrison, Hybrid-LB Ohio State 6. Joe Reed, WR Virginia 7. Daishawn Dixon, OG San Diego St. 7. Josiah Deguara, TE San Diego State Need Positions not able to be filled via draft due to value maximization (DE; OG) -- Those Position Groups aren't deep in the draft which points to the need to address those needs before the draft.

Not as egregious as taking Christian Ponder at 12.

Starters for the cheap? I mean at one point Austin Pazstor was a Starter. Quality Starter? No. To find a quality starter at Guard or Tackle in free agency, there is no such thing as cheap. We need a Guard and 2 Tackles. Assuming one starter is filled via the draft and 1 in free agency that means the one in Free Agency is going to have to be a big $ player. As long as Baker's our QB, it's a must and likely will be worth the investment. I'll assume that the new front office doesn't want to go on a spending spree in year 1 and will look for an internal solution for the other OLine spot opening. That or a low investment option. Glasgow's coming in as a starter right away. Probably gets 8mil/yr for 4 yrs with a hefty guaranteed bonus.

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fify .. I took the shortcut route and thought 6.5 games could tell me the whole story ... ... smdh

You poor fool. This is the Future speaking. Your evaluation lacks depth and I predict that the weekend before MLK's Life Celebration you'll get embarrassingly destroyed in debates about Tristan Wirfs. I'm here to tell you he's a very very good developing prospect, more of a projection, and not at all worth a top 10 pick. It will break your mind and heart, but he's not as amazing as you think he is. He's more so a top-20 pick guy, and by the time the draft roles around fans will be shocked when he falls below 12th, but that's how scouts in the league see him. A sure-fire top 25 talent, but more so the "David Njoku" coming into the draft Guard Version college prospect (no hindsight bias). I know you won't understand, but you have to trust me.... I don't have long... one last world altering thing to tell you before I go... IT IS

HC: Kevin Stefanski QBC/RGC: Rich Scangarello RBC: Stump Mitchell OL: Bill Callahan TEC: n/a WR/PGC: Chad O'Shea DC: Joe Woods ST: Mike Preifer ----- I agree that we haven't had this many (proposed) purposeful hires in terms of our offense having 5 OC experience coaches (Stump Included). Overall, the quality of the staff will have to do with what we do on the Defensive side of the ball. It's a good group, but without hindsight bias and based on the accomplishments of the coaches before they were hired in Cleveland the 2018 Browns Staff of Hue Jackson, Todd Haley, Ken Zampese, Bob Wylie, Al Saunders, Gregg Williams, Clyde Simmons was a rather impressive collection of coaching talent. In terms of how I'd feel about the proposed coaching hires? I think it's a very solid, through and through staff. I'd feel good about it and excited if we could hire an external OC candidate, Scangs as QBC, and fill out the defensive staff with quality. In that case, I'd feel great about the staff (as great as one can feel about a Browns staff at this point).

I haven't studied the free agents from those teams outside of a few position groups so I'm not sure. Graham Glasgow is the perfect Zone-Blocking Guard. I've liked him before the Stefanski hire and even more so now.

I like Harris but he has a bum knee that forces him to limp through a lot of games. I don't think Harris will succeed at any position other than Guard; however, I could see Hennessy having success as a zone guard albeit limited. I think Hennessy has more staying power in the league but more so at Center than Guard. He can really flip his hips and has some quality reach skills.

The 1st Question is the question of all questions, and it really changes things tremendously when it comes to how the rankings of Tackles look in my mind. It also changes what our draft strategy should be as certain top prospects won't make the next level impact given the zone-blocking requirements imo. Stefanski being hired and the pending zone-blocking scheme has caused a ton of fun and heated arguments between family and friends specifically about things that relate to the zone scheme. I spent a lot of time this past weekend talking over with friends and family about the desired zone-blocking play traits and blocking instincts that are desirable in college football prospect, as well as how to project those traits to the pros. I couldn't answer a lot of questions regarding what zone-blocking requires in terms of play traits, how to best identify zone-blocking acumen, and evaluations especially when it came to scheme fits, and I got destroyed in a few debates. I also got destroyed when talking about Tristan Wirfs so glowingly and got called out for particular game evaluations causing me to go back and watch things with a different lens. I've since set out to try to base my assessments on firmer ground and evidence. I feel like I'm close to that point now. As a result, my thoughts have completely changed on a lot of prospects when it comes to scheme fit considerations. And scheme-fit considerations for OLineman matter tremendously and more so than at most other positions. ------------------------------ The following are my Zone-Blocking OT and OG rankings (..Different from my general OT and OG rankings): ***Zone-Blocking Play Traits and Ability Offensive Tackle Rankings***: The Perfect Fit Targets: 1.) Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama, 2.) Robert Hunt, RT Louisiana-Lafayette, 3.) Jack Driscoll, RT Auburn The Overall Zone Blocking Tackle Rankings: 1.) Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama 2.) Robert Hunt, RT Louisiana-Lafayette 3.) Jack Driscoll, RT Auburn 4.) Prince Tega-Wanogho, LT Auburn 5.) Mekhi Becton, OT Louisville 6.) Austin Jackson, LT USC 7.) Terrance Steele, RT Texas Tech 8.) Andrew Thomas, LT Georgia 9.) Ezra Cleveland, OT Boise State 10.) Isaiah Wilson, RT Georgia 11.) Samuel Cosmi, OT/OG Texas 10.) Josh Jones, RT Houston --------- ***Zone-Blocking Play Traits and Ability Offensive Guard Rankings***:: The Perfect Fit Targets: 1.) Netane Muti, OG/OT/OC Fresno St., 2.) Solomon Kindley, OG Georgia, 3.) Shane Lemieux, OG Oregon, 4.) Tristan Wirfs, OG Iowa, 5.) Lloyd Cushenberry II, OG/OC LSU, 6.) Daishawn Dixon, OG San Diego State, 7.) John Simpson, OG Clemson The Overall Zone Blocking Guard Rankings: 1.) Netane Muti, OG/OT/OC Fresno St. 2.) Solomon Kindley, OG Georgia 3.) Shane Lemieux, OG Oregon 4.) Tristan Wirfs, OG Iowa 5.) Lloyd Cushenberry III, OG/OC LSU 6.) Daishawn Dixon, OG San Diego State 7.) John Simpson, OG Clemson 8.) Damien Lewis, OG LSU 9.) Ben Bredeson, OG Michigan 10.) Gage Cervenka, RG Clemson 11.) Bryce Meeker, OG-Convert Iowa State 12.) Zack Johnson, OG North Dakota St. ------------------------- What Our Draft Strategy Should Be Now: 1.) Consider trading up for Jedrick Wills depending on the cost. 2.) If Jedrick Wills, Andrew Thomas, or Jeffrey Okudah are there at 10, select them with a smile. 3.)Trade down multiple times (3 times even) to the 20 to 32 range, accrue multiple high draft pick assets present and future. Target Javon Kinlaw, DT South Carolina, Robert Hunt, RT Louisiana-Lafayette, Jack Driscoll, RT Auburn., Cole Kmet, TE Notre Dame, or one of the other Premier WRs. Only accept such trades if in totality they principally net additional 2nd round pick(s) in 2020 plus, other 2020 Draft Assets, a 1st round pick(s) in 2021, and a 2nd/3rd round pick(s) in 2021. 4.) If none are on the board, trade down 3 to 7 spots and see if Isaiah Simmons, Derrick Brown, or AJ Epenesa. Only make the trade if the such a trade includes present and future draft capital. If so, select one of them and accept the trade.

Imo, the hiring of Callahan, O'Shea, and retaining of Stump guarantees: 1.) We're not hiring Mike LaFleur or a big-name external OC candiate as the primary play-caller 2.) As a result, Kevin Stefanski will be the primary play-caller ------------------ That's because when you hire an external primary play-caller Offensive Coordinator it's customary practice in the league to allow them to staff the offensive side of the ball with at least 2 coaches of their choice whom they trust to communicate/coach their messages/systems to the offense. Most of the time the OC will bring in their OLine Coach as well as RBC/WRC/QBC of choice. One of those positional coaches will then have a run-pass coordinator added title. We now only have the QBC and TEC positional coaching positions available along with the additional titles of Running Game Coordinator and Assistant Head Coach as contractual/role sweetners to recruit other experienced coaches. We also have an outright Offensive Coordinator position available, but with O'Shea getting the pass-game coordinator title without an OC's say so means that's not likely an open position on our coaching staff. While it's still possible that a LaFleur external candidate type is hired and then he pairs with a Scangarello/someone else as QBC (Scangarello worked in San Fran with him) and bring in his own TEC, that to me is a serious remote possibility now. The key was giving O'Shea the Passing Game Coordinator role. That role is decided most often by the Offensive Coordinator. In this case, that means Stefanski as OC and HC. My guess is that Callahan will receive the Assistant Head Coach designation and Rich Scangarello will be hired as the QB Coach with the Running Game Coordinator designation.

I missed that ... Assuming Rick and Chris speak, the point still applies as a triangulated way to create favorable pressure for the decision in Paton's direction... That's all she wrote; George Paton is our Next GM; So long Andrew Berry... we;ll think of you fondly: 1.) 2nd meeting 2.) Paton not going to the Senior Bowl as he would've if he was still with the Vikings --- Here's to hoping Paton is a free, forward-thinker, who can work collaboratively with DePo and the analytics department... that he can build a scouting department filled with forward-thinking scouts and that he himself can lead key and sound roster-building decisions for an extended period of time. If it's not a fit, don't force it though... Interesting wording by Pelissaro who worked the Minnesota beat for many years as an insider.. If it's already a fit for Stefanski and Paton, who's it not a fit for yet? We all know who and the departments who might not be a total fit. Will be interesting to see how it all evolves.

Lol. Automatic, stream of consciousness expressive writing and regurgitating of my thoughts onto a page/electronic page is soothing to me kind of like how mindless, open-road highway driving is for others. It feels good to stream out 2 minutes of typing, driving in the open landscape of the Internet road. I can't hit the open road in this office so posts like that have to suffice.

I knew that if George Paton actually interviewed here that he'd be the one getting the job instead of Berry. One team missed on Laquon Treadwell, the other Corey Coleman.... I say that just to say that there's no truly discernible differences between the George Paton and Andrew Berry except that one has served as an assistant GM longer (Paton) which ostensibly makes us feel he's more prepared for the job and one has past experience working well in an ego-less, forward-thinking environment with Paul DePodesta and others in the Browns organization (Berry). Now, Rick Spielman is in media reports lobbying for the Browns to hire Paton because it's the "best thing for Kevin Stefanski." Paton, Stefanski, and Spielman all talk. This is a classic coordinated way to put external pressure on ownership/hiring-group decision-making. We have no idea whether George Paton will be a successful GM, or how well he'll mesh with the alignment currently desired by execs like DePo. Paton is a shiny unknown, grass is greener candidate, comes with rave reviews from a respected GM, respected evaluator of talent, and has been a part of roster building successes in the past. Andrew Berry is a less shiny mostly known entity who has experience collaboratively working well with Paul DePodesta, is known to be an ego-less executive, and known to be a quality, forward-thinking evaluator. Berry was never the Browns GM; Sashi Brown was so we don't have certainty regarding what Berry will be in the captain's chair. How well can Paton collaborate with DePo and others? Is he going to be dismissive of analytical approaches in ways similar to Dorsey traditionalists? I'd still go with Andrew Berry because that seemingly provides the organization with the best alignment orientation. Berry is also a talented and respected evaluator who may have more success when in the lead strategist/roster-building role as opposed to just being a lead evaluator. If we do hire Paton over Berry, it's neither something to get excited about nor something to be upset about. Time will tell, but based on the known knowns and known unknows regarding both candidates imo Berry's immediately shifting all sails of the organization in the same direction makes him the most desirable candidate at this time.

Oof..... wow... I totally forgot he's on their team too... Lol.. well there you go...more high investment as he started 8 games... Coaching deserves a ton of credit, but as 49ers followers will tell you it's mostly attributed to the players individual and collective talent over coaching, as well as the favorable positions their potent Offensive Style puts the defense in when it comes to ball-control and situational context. Players get injured; it's not about everyone on the field being a Premier Player. When the weakest link on the field is a CB2 3rd Round investment like Witherspoon with flash low lows and high highs that speaks to a particular high investment construction of the defensive roster. Even still, they definitely have had more than 3 or 4 (at least 5) players as you suggest perform like Premier Players this year including: 1.) Arik Armstead premier play this season (10 Sacks; 14 TFLs; High QB Pressure Rate) 2.) Deforest Buckner (7.5 Sacks; 11 TFLs; High QB Pressure Rate; High Tackle Rate) 3.) Nick Bosa (No Data Citation needed) 4.) Jimmie Ward has been injured but has Started 13 Games with an 84.2+ Grade and high production making him a top 5 Safety by all advanced metrics. 5.) Richard Sherman (Having his highest graded year in his career) --- That's 5 premier player contributions; the next grouping of 3 players Dee Ford, Jacquiski Tartt, Kwon Alexander (Started 8 games), are high investment players that have made huge impacts at various points in the season... --- Fred Warner was also a 3rd round selection --- That makes 8 Players out of 11 players on the field. Compared to the rest of the league and the league's direct/indirect investment in defensive players that's a rare roster construction, especially when considering where the vast majority of players were selected in the draft, as well as the Big Money top Free agent contracts others received.

The construction of their defense is a case study in high investment, high pay-off: Their Dominant DLine where which is the spoon that stirs the drinK: 2nd Overall Pick (Nick Bosa) 7th Overall Pick (Deforest Buckner) 17th Overall Pick (Arik Armstead) 23rd Overall Pick (Dee Ford) 3rd Overall Pick (Solomon Thomas) Then, all we need in the secondary is: the best CB by all metrics and analytics over the last 10 years for a FA bargain basement contract (Richard Sherman) A first Round Hybrid-Safety (Jimmie Ward) A 2nd Round Hybrid Safety (Jaquiski Tartt) A 3rd Round Long CB2 (Ahkello Witherspoon) LBs: Fill-in with cheap inexpensive young players Corrected: @LETSGOBROWNIES Kwon Alexander is high investment as well. ------

Agreed. The biggest thing it does is preserve belief and buy-in for the first year Head Coach's program through early times of adversity as when a 1st year HC struggles with play-calling as a OC/DC the team starts to doubt their overall competence and ability to lead. With an OC calling the plays for the HC, the young HC can always take over later and provide a spark or scape-goat the OC and get a second chance to rally belief in the plan going forward. How could Freddie tell the players that they have to stop making mistakes, improve, and be more accountable when the player's are thinking to themselves "well, you first coach..." In Cleveland where toxicity, doubt, and negativity looms over everything, more than any other places getting initial buy-in and lift off for the HCs program is extremely important. Stefanski needs an OC to help protect the lift off phase of the program. However, there is an opposite side of that coin where if a first year Head Coach achieves success as a play-caller out the gate it often fuels belief in the program and endears them to the players at a pivotal stage in the HC-Player relationship. It then serves for positive points that players can point back to when adversity inevitably comes down the line.

First Stefanski (Vikes) then LaFleur (GB)... The real deal Shanahan/Gibbs/Ferentz offense gives Kyle an advantage not just as an offensive caller, but also how he helps prepare a defensive game plan against lesser versions and less advanced replicas of the the zone run-pass game... Stefanski made some elementary zone run-pass no no's against the 49ers as has been analyzed by people like Brett Kollman and VikesCentral.. LaFleur and co. have done the same.. Kyle is also much more creative and adaptive of other schemes to offset his zone offense calls unlike LaFleur and Stefanski who are still trying to master the graduate level course. They are talented in their own right and the 49ers defense has tremendous talent, but Shanahan helps a great deal in terms of what to take away...