megatechpc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 What's not to get? I agree he is good enough to play in the NFL. I disagree that any team should be obligated to sign him just because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, megatechpc said: What's not to get? I agree he is good enough to play in the NFL. I disagree that any team should be obligated to sign him just because of that. That you're responding to me about points I already made. And no one was suggesting your last sentence being a reality. Saying he should be on a roster isn't the same as saying teams are obligated to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 An enigmatic persona in a sports world that abides by simple heroes. Since the 1960s and Rams WR Bernie Casey, writer, actor, artist, complex people are a square peg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 6:21 AM, Bobikus said: Yeah, he's not great, but there are dozens of worse QBs still with jobs. Those QBs don't come with a media parade that take away from the team. He is not worth the headache. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 16 hours ago, PapaShogun said: That you're responding to me about points I already made. And no one was suggesting your last sentence being a reality. Saying he should be on a roster isn't the same as saying teams are obligated to sign him. I'm just saying--- wait, WHAT? If you think he "should be on a roster" then you ARE saying a team should be obligated to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, megatechpc said: I'm just saying--- wait, WHAT? If you think he "should be on a roster" then you ARE saying a team should be obligated to sign him. That’s not the same at all. “Dez Bryant is good enough to be on an NFL roster. The Patriots, being thin at WR, should sign him.” ”The Patriots are obligated to sign Dez Bryant.” Those two statements mean the same thing, to you? No one’s obligated to sign any free agent. That has nothing to do with whether or not that player is good enough to be on a roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Most of the claims I've heard about him, about how he SHOULD be on an NFL team, are really just veiled accusations that the NFL is in fact "blackballing" him when the reality is that there is a lot more to consider in any player signing than just "can he play?" There's really just no point in bringing up how he should be on a roster unless you are trying to say that some team should be forced to sign him, because obviously none of them actually WANT to sign him, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, megatechpc said: Most of the claims I've heard about him, about how he SHOULD be on an NFL team, are really just veiled accusations that the NFL is in fact "blackballing" him when the reality is that there is a lot more to consider in any player signing than just "can he play?" There's really just no point in bringing up how he should be on a roster unless you are trying to say that some team should be forced to sign him, because obviously none of them actually WANT to sign him, So, yes or no? 36 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: “Dez Bryant is good enough to be on an NFL roster. The Patriots, being thin at WR, should sign him.” ”The Patriots are obligated to sign Dez Bryant.” Those two statements mean the same thing, to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 No. But the Dez Bryant and Colin Kaepernick situations have nothing in common with each other. You really don't see the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, megatechpc said: No. But the Dez Bryant and Colin Kaepernick situations have nothing in common with each other. You really don't see the difference? It doesn’t matter. This thread is pretty clearly “without the non-football stuff”. Discussing Kaepernick as a player, it’s right there in the OP. Kaepernick is a good enough player to warrant a roster spot. That’s all that really needs to be established in a thread that is only discussing him as a football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: It doesn’t matter. This thread is pretty clearly “without the non-football stuff”. Discussing Kaepernick as a player, it’s right there in the OP. Kaepernick is a good enough player to warrant a roster spot. That’s all that really needs to be established in a thread that is only discussing him as a football player. Threads are not confined only to the scope of the OP. But if the only responses you want to see in this thread are "He's good enough to make a roster" or "He's not good enough to make a roster" then so be it. I already said he played well enough in his last season in SF to warrant a roster spot somewhere. But that is still largely irrelevant because there ARE other factors to consider when discussing whether he SHOULD be on a roster, even if you want to simply ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, megatechpc said: Threads are not confined only to the scope of the OP. Shrug. You call it being “confined to the scope of the OP”, I call it staying on topic and talking about football. 3 minutes ago, megatechpc said: But if the only responses you want to see in this thread are "He's good enough to make a roster" or "He's not good enough to make a roster" then so be it. I already said he played well enough in his last season in SF to warrant a roster spot somewhere. But that is still largely irrelevant because there ARE other factors to consider when discussing whether he SHOULD be on a roster, even if you want to simply ignore them. I don’t care if you want to derail a thread, but your statement was wrong. Saying he should be on a roster within the discussion of his football acumen only does not in any way imply that teams should be forced or obligated to sign him. There are other players currently unemployed that are also good enough and should be playing on a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatechpc Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Shrug. You call it being “confined to the scope of the OP”, I call it staying on topic and talking about football. I don’t care if you want to derail a thread, but your statement was wrong. Saying he should be on a roster within the discussion of his football acumen only does not in any way imply that teams should be forced or obligated to sign him. There are other players currently unemployed that are also good enough and should be playing on a team. So you think he's good enough to be on a roster but that no teams should be compelled to sign him? Good. We agree. Moving on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just now, megatechpc said: So you think he's good enough to be on a roster but that no teams should be compelled to sign him? You’re now on the same page as everyone else ITT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Kaepernick is a buffoon, but I did enjoy watching him run amok on that vaunted Dom Capers defense in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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