Jlowe22 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Yeah, and I stand by that. If a player isn't in the top 10%, I don't consider them elite. Even if the top 12% are producing at an elite level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, Jlowe22 said: Even if the top 12% are producing at an elite level? I guess not, but Brady wasn't producing in the top 12% of the league that year. He wasn't producing at the top 15%, not the top 20%, but 30%. And that's if you look only at his TD production. Everything else was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Outpost31 said: I guess not, but Brady wasn't producing in the top 12% of the league that year. He wasn't producing at the top 15%, not the top 20%, but 30%. And that's if you look only at his TD production. Everything else was worse. Ok, I didn't watch much Brady back then, I can't argue about that. I'm only saying that there is no arbitrary number at which players become elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, Jlowe22 said: Ok, I didn't watch much Brady back then, I can't argue about that. I'm only saying that there is no arbitrary number at which players become elite. Yeah, I agree, but elite certainly isn't 20-30% in this league, especially at a position that only has one starter for each team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Outpost31 said: Yeah, I agree, but elite certainly isn't 20-30% in this league, especially at a position that only has one starter for each team. Fair enough. Although there are at least 5 guys producing at an elite level at QB this year, maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Outpost31 said: Yeah, and I stand by that. If a player isn't in the top 10%, I don't consider them elite. So with that in mind, the 6th best safety in the league is elite? And in the same tier as the #1? Even then, it’s fine if you don’t consider them that way. It’s just that your opinion on a word that has a pretty clear definition is not the sole way of looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriotsheatyan Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Fitzpatrick: 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Even if you want to argue Brady wasn't elite in 2004. It is hard to ignore 2005. He was 6th in passer rating, first in yards, 3rd in touchdowns, and 5th in Any/a. The numbers may not look sexy since the early to mid-2000s was a different league. But factoring era, he was absolutely elite in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 6:34 PM, Starless said: Brady: 2004 Brees: 2006 Rodgers: 2009 I don't think anyone else is up there as truly elite. Wilson has earned it IMO. Carries a team that would struggle to win a game without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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