SotanKing Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Not corrupt, inept is the right word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, rocky_rams said: Look at Pat McAfee’s interview with Tim Donaghey So none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, mse326 said: So none. Fortunately we're on a football forum, not in court. Circumstantial evidence warrants conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: Fortunately we're on a football forum, not in court. Circumstantial evidence warrants conversation. Where is the circumstantial evidence? Bad reffing? That isn't evidence of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mse326 said: Where is the circumstantial evidence? Bad reffing? That isn't evidence of anything. Tim Donaghey + historically bad officiating = circumstantial evidence Edited October 27, 2019 by nagahide13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, nagahide13 said: Tim Donaghey. Him talking about how he would do something, is not evidence that that something is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, mse326 said: So none. I didn’t say I have definitive evidence but if a former ref got exposed for manipulating games in his favor and says that there is a possibility that it’s still going on in the NBA and NFL then it warrants conversation. You’re not inputting anything valuable to this thread so if you disagree then tell us why. This thread is to talk about the ref issue after the many fans see questionable calls being called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, rocky_rams said: I didn’t say I have definitive evidence but if a former ref got exposed for manipulating games in his favor and says that there is a possibility that it’s still going on in the NBA and NFL then it warrants conversation. You’re not inputting anything valuable to this thread so if you disagree then tell us why. This thread is to talk about the ref issue after the many fans see questionable calls being called. This thread isn't to talk about he ref issue, it's talk about your bald assertion that there ARE NFL refs fixing games. Not that some might be (which is also without actual proof), but that there are. I'm contributing something very valuable I'm holding you to basic standards of fact assertion-PROOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, nagahide13 said: Tim Donaghey + historically bad officiating = circumstantial evidence Do you have proof of that? Don't confuse being able to see more errors because of HD cameras, more cameras, ability to slow down footage, greater access do to internet. Another claim that is made in this thread with no evidentiary basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 56 minutes ago, Bolts223 said: If you live in Vegas I love the irony of your name now. I’ve lived everywhere. Not sure how people can stay in one place all their life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, mse326 said: This thread isn't to talk about he ref issue, it's talk about your bald assertion that there ARE NFL refs fixing games. Not that some might be (which is also without actual proof), but that there are. I'm contributing something very valuable I'm holding you to basic standards of fact assertion-PROOF I never said that games are being fixed. That would mean that it’s rigged. I also did not say I have proof of anything happening. Again, im basing this off a former referee who got caught manipulating games. He said there is a possibility it is happening currently. What part of that don’t you understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, mse326 said: Do you have proof of that? Don't confuse being able to see more errors because of HD cameras, more cameras, ability to slow down footage, greater access do to internet. Another claim that is made in this thread with no evidentiary basis. Nobody needs to present you with anything. We are talking about a potential issue. Nobody named any names or made claims against specific individuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, rocky_rams said: I never said that games are being fixed. That would mean that it’s rigged. I also did not say I have proof of anything happening. Again, im basing this off a former referee who got caught manipulating games. He said there is a possibility it is happening currently. What part of that don’t you understand? The part where in the OP you said Quote I’m sure the same or something similar is going on in the NFL where some refs are calling games because they are either betting on them or they are working with the mob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, mse326 said: Do you have proof of that? Don't confuse being able to see more errors because of HD cameras, more cameras, ability to slow down footage, greater access do to internet. Another claim that is made in this thread with no evidentiary basis. What would you qualify as evidence? Something like; https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-nfl-created-its-own-officiating-nightmare-11571322517 I'm not really sure what you're doing right now. It's pretty clear that officiating has been particularly bad over the last two years, and the bar for what constitutes circumstantial evidence is incredibly low. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share Posted October 27, 2019 Just now, mse326 said: The part where in the OP you said I was echoing what Tim Donaghey said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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