Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, dtait93 said: That's not true at all. There are many people who continued to be Oilers fans and then Titans fans when the franchise moved to Tennessee - some of which who even post on here. "Jim Brown is actually a Raven" You understand how absurd this ridiculous this argument is? Earl is ours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, dtait93 said: He played for our organization, end of story. He has nothing to do with the Texans. Earl was raised 45 minutes north of Austin. He played college in Austin. He was drafted to Houston. Any argument that HOU doesnt get to claim him is null and void. Its an objectively absurd notion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Earl was raised 45 minutes north of Austin. He played college in Austin. He was drafted to Houston. Any argument that HOU doesnt get to claim him is null and void. Its an objectively absurd notion. Wrong. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: "Jim Brown is actually a Raven" You understand how absurd this ridiculous this argument is? Earl is ours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns_relocation_controversy All Cleveland history remained in Cleveland after they moved to Baltimore. The Ravens were treated historically as an expansion team. Not at all the same as Oilers and Titans/Texans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, dtait93 said: Wrong. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/index.htm You missed the part where IDGAF about what was negotiated in the the transition. Earl is a Texan. He is an Austinite and a Houstonian. Pretending he reps the Titans is a lie. No one, literally no one, thinks of him as a part of your team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, skywlker32 said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns_relocation_controversy All Cleveland history remained in Cleveland after they moved to Baltimore. The Ravens were treated historically as an expansion team. Not at all the same as Oilers and Titans/Texans. 17 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I seriously dont care what logic/negotiated claim you have. There is no logical conclusion that takes Earl out of Texas. He was born here. He played his entire career from HS through the NFL here. Tennessee can go (buzz) themselves. Read the proression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, Matts4313 said: No one, literally no one, thinks of him as a part of your team. This is the crux of my argument. You can say otherwise, but very few people think of him as a Tennessee Titan. They think of him as a Houston Oiler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Read the proression Browns vs. Oilers don't follow the same logic though because the Ravens ACTUALLY have no claim to Jim Brown, while the Titans have technical claim to all the Oilers players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, ET80 said: This is the crux of my argument. You can say otherwise, but very few people think of him as a Tennessee Titan. They think of him as a Houston Oiler. Out of curiosity, since the Rams were originally a Cleveland team, how to you handle that move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, skywlker32 said: Browns vs. Oilers don't follow the same logic though because the Ravens ACTUALLY have no claim to Jim Brown, while the Titans have technical claim to all the Oilers players. My entire point is that if you take the legality out of it, there is a very clear line in the sand. Earl belongs to HOU. Its not really up to debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywlker32 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: My entire point is that if you take the legality out of it, there is a very clear line in the sand. Earl belongs to HOU. Its not really up to debate And how do you feel about this then: 3 minutes ago, skywlker32 said: Out of curiosity, since the Rams were originally a Cleveland team, how to you handle that move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You missed the part where IDGAF about what was negotiated in the the transition. Earl is a Texan. He is an Austinite and a Houstonian. Pretending he reps the Titans is a lie. No one, literally no one, thinks of him as a part of your team. You missed the part where his number is retired under our franchise. Earl Campbell is just as much a part of our franchise as Warren Moon, Mike Munchak, and Bruce Matthews. Him playing high school football in Texas doesn't change that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, skywlker32 said: And how do you feel about this then: I feel like practical understanding rings true. If you played the bulk (or best) part of your career in a certain town, then that town is 100% correct in claiming you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, skywlker32 said: Out of curiosity, since the Rams were originally a Cleveland team, how to you handle that move? Anyone who achieved anything for that franchise did it for that city. I'll say this - Kurt Warner isn't an Los Angeles legend, IMO. Neither is Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce or Torry Holt. Much like how Eric Dickerson didn't do anything for St Louis. I fully understand the technicalities behind each claim, but I go by the city/state a player played in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Just now, dtait93 said: You missed the part where his number is retired under our franchise. Earl Campbell is just as much a part of our franchise as Warren Moon, Mike Munchak, and Bruce Matthews. Him playing high school football in Texas doesn't change that. This is stupid. And if your franchise is recognizing Texans than good for them, but it has ish to do with Tennessee. They are dumb also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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