Meme Mafia - Town - (minus Mwil) wins

[Scoundrel]

7 minutes ago, SwAg said:

Well what do you owe him when you flip scum?

A mock also but won’t happen cus I ain’t scum Elsa 

[MWil23]

SwAg is scum

Still runnin’!!!!

[MWil23]

Criminal Minds was my first game as an other/SK/scum. I have fond memories of that game.

[SwAg]

2 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

SwAg is scum

Still runnin’!!!!

I'm literally sitting here, asking you to engage me about this game, and aptly dissecting your play, while you keep posting this.

[MWil23]

I’m awful as scum and yet I’m now able to post my point in passive voice to work around the search filter.

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[SwAg]

2 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

I’m awful as scum and yet I’m now able to post my point in passive voice to work around the search filter.

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I'm glad that's the one thing you find fault with here, nothing else.

[MWil23]

I’m not engaging a scum meme master manipulator 

[SwAg]

I mean, really.  Given how obsessed people are with me, I thought you would learn that I almost always give a weak point in an argument to see if they latch onto that and ignore everything else, sorta like you did.

[SwAg]

Just now, MWil23 said:

I’m not engaging a scum meme master manipulator 

 

Just now, SwAg said:

I mean, really.  Given how obsessed people are with me, I thought you would learn that I almost always give a weak point in an argument to see if they latch onto that and ignore everything else, sorta like you did.

Well, depending on the disambiguation:  I am manipulating scum (you) right now, so, might be too late.

[SwAg]

MWil is shutting down so he doesn't out any more of his teammates lol

[KOTN-93]

[theuntouchable]

32 minutes ago, SwAg said:

This is honestly comical.  Stop regurgitating tired and disprovable talking points on Touch.

Some people were content showing up and position themselves for what should be the clear "winning" position on this lynch, and now they're panicking a bit because their feet are held to the fire when some prominent voices made it a close race.  Kick facts, bro.  Your whole explanation exceeds the bounds of credulity.

Touch has had the Duelist role before and recently, and it was in Dome's Old West game.  The immediate reaction was "this is a Town role" and "lol we are not voting Touch over squire."  Touch is aware of this, as are many of those who are present.  The concept that this was some inordinate risk that could never work is laughable, as Touch was largely ignored for the remainder of the game as "likely Town" and "likely Vanilla."  The concept that Touch wouldn't do this because it's "too risky" is bull****.  There is almost no risk involved here.  If anything, it will have the opposite effect for multiple days.  There is one talking point debunked. 

Throw in that you're clearly aware of that, and you're not going back to see who reacted differently in the situation beforehand compared to now makes me think you lack a genuine curiosity in resolving the game.  That information is potentially valuable, and I went back to get it... but since I've given you half a day and you've made no mention of it, I am forced to assume it's not part of your plan.

Touch initiated the Duel when we are barely halfway through D1, which has resulted in the point I made.  It provided cover for literally everyone who opted to use it as such to abstain from a real decision on D1 because by all accounts: no one would realistically argue you should choose Llama over Touch on D1.  So, people queued up to get in on that action quickly and throw support behind Touch because there is literally no foreseeable downside.  All of those people could have a legitimate position on it, or they could be hiding in the cover that Touch gave them.

Touch's explanation is straight-up bad, and I don't think even he believes it is good... and to be honest, with what I've said about, I doubt he even believed it needed to be good.  "I got excited" and essentially "he was in the thread not posting" and "I didn't like the meme posted in response to ****/marry/kill."  So, you stymied all external conversation midway through D1 and funneled all reads into artificial battle lines that you drew, and then your explanation is "I caught scum and I was excited."  Tell me, how it is more pro-Town for you to blow your ability and cause all of this cumulative side effects on D1 than to strongly pursue it, with the knowledge people will likely listen to you if you ask them to give you some good faith?  I certainly would have, but instead I have to ask: What is the point of Touch doing this?  What benefit does he derive?  And the most common response I conjure up is that you wanted an early clear and space where you can use your ability and not be at risk, and not be held accountable if it's wrong.

Counselor, MWil, and Touch are all connected, and you would be remiss to forget that when the vote swings to Llama.  Counselor and Touch had the back and forth early in the thread where Touch accused him of being scum with me, which is a clever way to put an albatross around a Townie's neck whenever you think a Mafia is likely to die early.  MWil and Counselor are jockeying to push a narrative that I'm useless because "lol swag is posting funny" and if I do break character and actually play then it's "lol swag is guilty, feelin heat!"  And Touch is pushing that all along.  Dome did it last game with Touch, it's how you start to form a narrative in the thread, and less experienced people will buy into it.  

So, that's why I'm content voting Touch right now because he's done nothing to allay any of these concerns.  And when he flips scum, you should vote Counselor and MWil out in quick order.  Don't **** around like retards and ignore my reads that solved the game while you all try to figure it out on your own.

Speaking of panicking? Where did the schtick go? Oh, that’s right I called you out. Silly me. 
 

you’re also misremembering the game which is truly uncharacteristic of you. Forge shot me not long after I took squire out and IIRC he was town that game. That’s the game that started the Forge ******* me over. 
 

so because I haven’t gone back to reread in the last 12 hours means I’m intentionally not going back to reread ....... id expect a much better argument from town Swag. 
 

you’re absolutely correct that there could have been people hiding “behind the cover I game them”, there’s also likely players on the reverse side of that but that doesn’t fit your narrative, now does it? 
 

it’s pro town because I found scum. I have also unearthed you as scum. As well as likely josh/slappy. (Speaking it which didn’t he say he was gonna read up???) It created a line right down the middle and has since forced people to take a stance. That’s a better d1 than there has ever been, you’re welcome. 
 

I’m also surprised that you would take this stance right out the gate. It seems to me that you know for a fact that either one of would turn up town. Why is that Swag? Did llama and slappy start crying to chatty about how you gotta save them? 
 

it’s funny that you want the “concerted effort to save me” be noticed but you want everyone to not think about the concerted effort in place to try and bury me. 

[theuntouchable]

3 minutes ago, SwAg said:

I mean, really.  Given how obsessed people are with me, I thought you would learn that I almost always give a weak point in an argument to see if they latch onto that and ignore everything else, sorta like you did.

Well, it’s kinda easy when your entire argument is a weak point .....

[theuntouchable]

pretty funny that the more this has gone on, Swag has suddenly decided to break character. It’s cute you’d want to save him but you’re likely setting that up for later WIFOM play. 

[SwAg]

1 minute ago, theuntouchable said:

Speaking of panicking? Where did the schtick go? Oh, that’s right I called you out. Silly me. 
 

you’re also misremembering the game which is truly uncharacteristic of you. Forge shot me not long after I took squire out and IIRC he was town that game. That’s the game that started the Forge ******* me over. 
 

so because I haven’t gone back to reread in the last 12 hours means I’m intentionally not going back to reread ....... id expect a much better argument from town Swag. 
 

you’re absolutely correct that there could have been people hiding “behind the cover I game them”, there’s also likely players on the reverse side of that but that doesn’t fit your narrative, now does it? 
 

it’s pro town because I found scum. I have also unearthed you as scum. As well as likely josh/slappy. (Speaking it which didn’t he say he was gonna read up???) It created a line right down the middle and has since forced people to take a stance. That’s a better d1 than there has ever been, you’re welcome. 
 

I’m also surprised that you would take this stance right out the gate. It seems to me that you know for a fact that either one of would turn up town. Why is that Swag? Did llama and slappy start crying to chatty about how you gotta save them? 
 

it’s funny that you want the “concerted effort to save me” be noticed but you want everyone to not think about the concerted effort in place to try and bury me. 

I already addressed that.  You all were trying to control the narrative, and all your interaction paint a damning picture.  If I Drunk Elsa the game, I'm useless; if I start talking, I'm under pressure.  You're literally just repeating the narrative I accused you of.

You're remembering incorrectly.  You were alive at LyLo and lost.

Because it's the most viable means of you actually catching scum with this bit, and you're relying upon some ethereal prospective assurance that you'll do it in the future.  You sure you expect better of me when you're expecting me to buy that line of trash?

Not really.  You drew an artificial line, which everyone has an excuse to take your side on it.  And you're saying you outed me as scum, but I was one of the people who said "lol squire over Touch? neeeexxxttttt" as squire's teammate in Dome's Old West... So, why is this suddenly different for me?  I'm going to come out full force on D1 to save a weak teammate and vulnerable teammate, but you're apparently never ever super never gonna do something So RiSkY oN dAy OnE!  Why cool for you, but not for me? 

Way to faceplant right into that gotcha.

I didn't take this stance right out the gate, lmao.  I let it develop, and even voted Llama, and when the battle lines developed, I decided that I'm going to salvage D1 because I think I have a clear read on you, MWil, and Counselor engaging in what looks substantially like concerted narrative forming. 

I don't even know where slappy is coming from in this interaction.  I don't think he's posted since before this happened yesterday.  Why did you choose him instead of...idk, any one else?

Well, I know for a fact there's no concerted effort to bury you because the only person genuinely pushing it is me, and I'm Town, so.