The Orca Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, wolfeyestrk said: Why would an invest census go through a jail? Cause it's a game move...but I'm glad you and Matts are coming into the thread to reveal yourselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I jailed him last night. An invest (census) wouldnt have worked on him. And yes, I did verify the description. 5 minutes ago, The Orca said: Census wouldnt have failed 1 minute ago, The Orca said: Cause it's not an individual move it's a game move This has always been my interpretation as well. Regardless, it's either Daboyle/Pickle and if neither flips then Orca is a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The game was explicitly advertised as bastard. The definition of bastard from what I know is that you cannot 100% trust information from the host. The census is sketchy and its results are sketchy at best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, The Orca said: Wrong. I verified the census cant be blocked in anyway soo.... uhhhhh.... 1 minute ago, Whicker said: So if it goes through jail it goes through invest immune Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orca Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Whicker said: So if it goes through jail it goes through invest immune Invest immune doesnt block the move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, MWil23 said: This has always been my interpretation as well. Regardless, it's either Daboyle/Pickle and if neither flips then Orca is a liar. If it goes through jail it goes through invest immune. It’s not an incest its a game move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, The Orca said: Invest immune doesnt block the move Then this whole discussion is pointless af Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, The Orca said: Invest immune doesnt block the move If jail doesnt block it, then neither does invest immune. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 8:55 PM, Malfatron said: Also note: this game may be bastard. this game may be swingy Not quite On 1/2/2020 at 8:55 PM, Malfatron said: Also note: this game may be bastard. this game may be swingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Whicker said: Then this whole discussion is pointless af Right. So we are back to the start. 1. Orca is lying 2. Orca is telling the truth and Pickle/Daboyle/Mwil are all cleared. Orca. Best info lynch, with the scummiest claim, in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Whicker said: If it goes through jail it goes through invest immune. It’s not an incest its a game move I'll trust you on this. I'm not sure of the specific mechanics of moves/order/how it comes back, or if this is a guaranteed universal thing or if it varies from host to host. Last game we ran into some census issues that arguably cost us the game N1, so I would be remiss if I didn't state clearly that I'm not completely buying this angle in any way/shape/form or the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The Orca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daboyle Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Orca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, MWil23 said: I'll trust you on this. I'm not sure of the specific mechanics of moves/order/how it comes back, or if this is a guaranteed universal thing or if it varies from host to host. Last game we ran into some census issues that arguably cost us the game N1, so I would be remiss if I didn't state clearly that I'm not completely buying this angle in any way/shape/form or the results. Census should not exist in a mafia game for this reason and others. But the common sense, on the surface version of the census says Counselor is scum and the rest are town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: I'll trust you on this. I'm not sure of the specific mechanics of moves/order/how it comes back, or if this is a guaranteed universal thing or if it varies from host to host. Last game we ran into some census issues that arguably cost us the game N1, so I would be remiss if I didn't state clearly that I'm not completely buying this angle in any way/shape/form or the results. The issue last game was that town didnt understand that invest immune *did* block the census. Here are the scenarios: 1. Orca is lying. 2. Orca is telling the truth and Counselor was the only scum on his census. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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