WindyCity Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 One free agent that makes a ton of sense for the Bears would be Halapoulivaati Vaitai from Philadelphia-20 Starts, including a Super Bowl-Can play LT, RT, or RG-Knows the system-Adds some size and power [6'6" 320lbs]Start him at RGDraft an OG to Develop2021 He moves to RT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Another free agent OLmen that makes sense with the budget is OT Dennis Kelly from Ten.-31 career starts-Starts at RT and LT-Adds size [6'8" 320lbs]-From Chicago-Not super expensiveKelly can come in and compete at RT and LT and backup if he does not win one of the competition. Gives the Bears a high end swing OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 My 2020 OLRT: Massie, VaitaiRG: Vaitai, Draft PickC: WhitehairLG: Daniels, BarsLT: Leno/Dennis Kelly [Ten]-Sign Hal Vaitai 4 years 32 million/19 guaranteed-Sign Dennis Kelly 2 years 8 million/5 guaranteed-Draft an OG in Round 4My 2021 OLRT: VaitaiRG: 2020 Draft Pick/Bars/2021 FAC: WhitehairLG: DanielsLT: Kelly/21 High Draft Pick-Sign an OG to compete with the 2020 Draft Pick-Draft a LT high in the draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 Average salaries would roughly match and then drop when the over priced OTs are gone.2019Leno 9.25Daniels 1.7Whitehair 10.25Long 10Massie 7.7Lucas 1Larsen 1Coward .68041.602020Leno 9.25Daniels 1.7Whitehair 10.25Vaitai 8Massie 7.7Kelly 44th .800Bars .68042.382021Kelly 4Daniels 1.7Whitehair 10.252020 4th .8Vaitai 82021 2nd 1.7Bars .680FA OG 330.13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I don't hate it... nice work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 This is a sober and solid job. I want to hire you a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 12 hours ago, WindyCity said: -Sign Hal Vaitai 4 years 32 million/19 guaranteed-Sign Dennis Kelly 2 years 8 million/5 guaranteed Nice work overall. I always appreciate thought out posts like these with detail. I disagree with the choices though. And even more so the amount of money given to them. Vaitai has 20 career starts in 6 years (5 starts/year) and has allowed 16 sacks. Only 4 penalties, but it should be lower given he has mostly played guard. Kelly has 31 career starts in 7 years (4 starts/yr) and has allowed 16.5 sacks and 7 penalties. I don't think either of them are worth the time or money, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I can't edit my post again for some strange reason. I hate this forum sometimes. To fix the above Vaitai has 20 career starts in 6 years (5/yr) and has allowed 16 sacks and 13 penalties Kelly has 31 career starts in 7 years(4/yr) and has allowed 16.5 sacks and 10 penalties By comparison, Leno has 78 career starts in 6 years (13/year) and has allowed 25 sacks and 42 penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) Sacks allowed is a tough stat to use to judge an OLmen if you don’t watch the games. How many sacks this season were on Mitch? It also doesn’t account for the fact that Leno gets the 4th most help of any OT in the league. Or that Mitch spent the least amount of time with the ball in the pocket of any QB in the league. We are not going to be able to sign clean players in free agency like Joe Thuney or Brandon Scherff. Edited January 11, 2020 by WindyCity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 @WindyCity... What is your take if Trent Williams and/or Riley Rieff become available, for little, or no, draft capital? My opinion is that the Bears have to be all in, regardless of the 2020 cap hit. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: @WindyCity... What is your take if Trent Williams and/or Riley Rieff become available, for little, or no, draft capital? My opinion is that the Bears have to be all in, regardless of the 2020 cap hit. Thoughts? Unless Washington releases Williams, he won't be acquired for "little to no" draft capital. He is easily a top 3 LT in football. On 1/11/2020 at 1:36 AM, JustAnotherFan said: I can't edit my post again for some strange reason. I hate this forum sometimes. To fix the above Vaitai has 20 career starts in 6 years (5/yr) and has allowed 16 sacks and 13 penalties Kelly has 31 career starts in 7 years(4/yr) and has allowed 16.5 sacks and 10 penalties By comparison, Leno has 78 career starts in 6 years (13/year) and has allowed 25 sacks and 42 penalties. Agree. That's way too much for Vaitai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Unless Washington releases Williams, he won't be acquired for "little to no" draft capital. He is easily a top 3 LT in football. Agree. That's way too much for Vaitai. 8/season is Bobbie Massie money and he is better than Massie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, WindyCity said: 8/season is Bobbie Massie money and he is better than Massie. Nope, and even if he was, I'm not paying "very slightly better than Massie" $12M a year Edited January 13, 2020 by beardown3231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Nope, and even if he was, I'm not paying "very slightly better than Massie" $12M a year We were talking about Conklin making 12 a season. I wouldn’t pay Vaitai that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, WindyCity said: We were talking about Conklin making 12 a season. I wouldn’t pay Vaitai that either. No, we were talking about Vaitai. I said "that's way too much for Vaitai" and you quoted that in return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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