JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Soggust said: I knew I should have smashed the Jones line when it came out and he was a dog. He's -170 now sigh lol. Yea for sure. Glad I got +100 when I first saw it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Soggust said: I knew I should have smashed the Jones line when it came out and he was a dog. He's -170 now sigh lol. This what I'm waiting for, getting Gane at the best # Edited March 3, 2023 by 11sanchez11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 2 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: This what I'm waiting for, getting Gane at the best # I've been chest-out, bass in my voice sure that Bones winning this fight but man I'm not going to lie - Jones looks pretty bad at HW physically imo. I'm a lot less confident today than I was yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Soggust said: I've been chest-out, bass in my voice sure that Bones winning this fight but man I'm not going to lie - Jones looks pretty bad at HW physically imo. I'm a lot less confident today than I was yesterday. If Jones gets it to the mat (and he should) It's a rap......... If this fight remains standing....I think Gane wins easily!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: If Jones gets it to the mat (and he should) It's a rap......... If this fight remains standing....I think Gane wins easily!!!! Idk why, but I don't think we are gonna get the D1 Jones that some other folks are suspecting. If the takedown is there, I obviously think he takes it, but I don't think he's going to turn into Islam or anything for a few reasons. I think Jones is arrogant enough that he wants to beat people at their best skillset. He stood with everyone he's fought that I can remember and occasionally makes a point to beat people at their game (e.g. - wrestling DC). I think Gane is good at range, don't get me wrong, but I think Jones is as well. Jon got tagged by some faster strikers at LHW, but he's always had a good chin and I don't think Gane has the Derrick Lewis type power he needs to be constantly afraid of. Otherwise, this has basically always been his game. He's bulked up and going to be in a 5 round fight with a heavyweight. He's simply not going to have the stamina to spam takedowns for 25 mins. He's going to have to be selective. Gane's movement will be a problem to catch him a place where can grab a leg. Jones will have to stand with Gane for some period of time imo. I don't know that I agree Gane has the striking edge technically (which is where my hesitation has always been), but I do think we will find out tomorrow for sure. Edited March 3, 2023 by Soggust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Soggust said: I've been chest-out, bass in my voice sure that Bones winning this fight but man I'm not going to lie - Jones looks pretty bad at HW physically imo. I'm a lot less confident today than I was yesterday. Yea id be lying if i said i wasnt worried after seeing him on the scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 5 hours ago, big poppa pump said: If Jones gets it to the mat (and he should) It's a rap......... If this fight remains standing....I think Gane wins easily!!!! People are really underrating Gane's ground game based off of one fight that he lost 48-47 against the best HW in the world. When you have to worry about Francis' power, the takedowns come much easier, especially when you're not expecting it. Obviously Jones is better in that aspect, but anything thinking that it's over the second it hits the ground is crazy. I think Gane sub at +1600 is absolutely worth a sprinkle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 18 hours ago, Soggust said: I think Jones is arrogant enough that he wants to beat people at their best skillset. He stood with everyone he's fought that I can remember and occasionally makes a point to beat people at their game (e.g. - wrestling DC). I do believe this....but I think he will wise up, and attempt the takedown before he sees he is outclassed on the feet (and I truly believe this...maybe I'm wrong) 18 hours ago, Soggust said: I think Gane is good at range, don't get me wrong, but I think Jones is as well. Jon got tagged by some faster strikers at LHW, but he's always had a good chin and I don't think Gane has the Derrick Lewis type power he needs to be constantly afraid of. Otherwise, this has basically always been his game. I don't believe Jones will move as well at Hvy, and I don't think he has seen a striker on par with Gane (ever).. 18 hours ago, Soggust said: He's bulked up and going to be in a 5 round fight with a heavyweight. He's simply not going to have the stamina to spam takedowns for 25 mins. He's going to have to be selective. Yep...basically agreeing with you above...the weight is actually going to be a problem...not help imo. 18 hours ago, Soggust said: Gane's movement will be a problem to catch him a place where can grab a leg. Yes....movement will definitely be a problem! 18 hours ago, Soggust said: I don't know that I agree Gane has the striking edge technically (which is where my hesitation has always been), but I do think we will find out tomorrow for sure. This is where I disagree...I believe the edge will be clear cut. Even Jones at his best at LHW would be slightly less of a strike than Gane. A bulked up (i am guessing slower) version of Jones, who hasn't fought in 3 years will really be at a disadvantage. Now watch Jones outstrike him, and prove me wrong...lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: This is where I disagree...I believe the edge will be clear cut. Even Jones at his best at LHW would be slightly less of a strike than Gane. A bulked up (i am guessing slower) version of Jones, who hasn't fought in 3 years will really be at a disadvantage. Now watch Jones outstrike him, and prove me wrong...lol I am having a really hard time defending my Jones take because of this. As far as striking, you might be right about prime for prime (don't think I agree, but it's not offensive take). I am, however, starting to feel you are DEFINITELY right in the fight tonight. I am having a harder and harder time seeing Jones just outpointing him on the feet given his size/shape. I don't want to say I've come full circle to Gane's side, but I am not happy about betting on Jones atm (I had to take the FanDuel boost bc im a degen lol). He looks awful. Like, I would have felt better if he had come in smaller at 235 but more cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) I'm really pumped for tonight. Best card of the year so far easily. Jon Jones vs. Ciryl GaneValentina Shevchenko (c) vs. Alexa Grasso Geoff Neal vs. Shavkat RakhmonovMateusz Gamrot vs. Jalin TurnerBo Nickal vs. Jamie Pickett Scared on Jones. I am picking Valentina, but this actually reeks of an upset. I'm not confident enough to bet it, but this is like the perfect sleeper "omg wtf" moment. Shavkat easily, imo, given the weight cut of Neal. I think Gamrot steamrolls Turner who I think will be too willing to play BJJ vs avoiding a TD at all costs. Nickal runs through Pickett who is tailor-made for him, imo. Cody Garbrandt vs. Trevin JonesDerek Brunson vs. Dricus du Plessis Viviane Araújo vs. Amanda Ribas Julian Marquez vs. Marc-André Barriault No love gets back to form against a guy whos on a 3 loss skid. Brunson over DDP is my sleeper upset of the night. I think DDP will have problems with the wrestling of Brunson. Ribas/Vivi is a toss up, so I'll give it to my girl Amanda bc shes too likeable to not cheer for. Marquez is a local guy so I'm gonna cheer for him, but honestly I think MAB wins via a boring decision, unfortunately. Ian Garry vs. Song Kenan Cameron Saaiman vs. Leomana Martinez Jessica Penne vs. Tabatha Ricci Da’Mon Blackshear vs. Farid BasharatEsteban Ribovics vs. Loik Radzhabov Only really familiar with Garry, Martinez, Penne, and Blackshear so just riding favs. Edited March 4, 2023 by Soggust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I actually think the Bullet fight ITD is a lock. Reminds me of Bullet v Andrade where they made this big deal that Maia won a round and now Valentina looked as vulnerable at FW as ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 you guys are overreacting to how he looked on the scale. At least half of the heavyweights look way worse than he does. Gane being as cut as Francis or Gane is an anomaly. And it's not like he had a beer gut. He put on mass. He's not cutting certain liquids out of his diet to look shredded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 It'd be hilarious if Bo got knocked out after talking so much crap about Izzy and Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) Brunson looked KO'd by exhaustion. Crazy he lasted like 3 minutes w/ absolutely 0 energy. Edited March 5, 2023 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Cody still looks like the best offensive fighter in the division, luckily for him he hasn't gotten hit yet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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