Jeezla Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Bouknight isn't even close to Murray as a prospect coming out. Murray was a much stronger, more explosive athlete, and could actually shoot the 3 ball at an effective clip. Bouknight has a slight frame, is a good but not great athlete, and extremely streaky as a 3 point shooter, while also a pretty subpar defender. That's cool and all, but I just have a good feeling about Bouknight. Chip Engelland will refine his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just now, Jeezla said: That's cool and all, but I just have a good feeling about Bouknight. Chip Engelland will refine his shot. His shot isn't his only problem though. He's questionable defensively and is a non-creator/playmaker, he literally only effects the game by scoring and does so at an inefficient clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Donovan Mitchell averaged like 7 ppg on 40% FG and was the #1 option averaging like 23 2 years later in the league. There are a few guys that provide almost the same skill-set as Bouknight in this class. There are none with the athleticism, physical tools, and motor that Johnson brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: His shot isn't his only problem though. He's questionable defensively and is a non-creator/playmaker, he literally only effects the game by scoring and does so at an inefficient clip. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 kinda liking Marcus Bagley. And DJ Steward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just now, Jeezla said: Cool. Of guys who weren't top picks that have gone on to become elite level scorers in the NBA. Russell Westbrook averaged 3.4 ppg on 45% as a college freshman. Zach LaVine averaged 9.4 ppg on 44% as a college freshman. Donovan Mitchell averaged 7 ppg on 40% as a college freshman. Kawhi Leonard averaged 12 ppg on 44% as a college freshman. (Mid-major) Paul George averaged 14 ppg on 47% as a college freshman. (Mid-major) See the recurring theme here? Guys with the physical traits but raw skill-sets are the ones that become top scorers taken later in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just now, Jeezla said: kinda liking Marcus Bagley. And DJ Steward. Bagley projects as a nice energy role player. Steward should've went back to school, he'll be in the G-League for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 No real reason to even debate Keon vs Bouknight as the Spurs pick. Keon will be long gone when the Spurs pick, someone will take a swing on his upside, rightfully so. Keon's upside is like a Wade/Mitchell while Bouknight upside is like a Norman Powell/Jordan Clarkson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Bouknight will also be a 21 year old rookie while Johnson will be 19 during his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Also something interesting about this seasons final 4 teams. Suns starting 5: 4 lottery picks, 1 second round pick Clippers starting 5: 1 lottery pick, 2 mid 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks Bucks starting 5: 1 lottery pick, 2 mid 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks Hawks starting 5: 1 lottery pick, 4 mid to late 1st round picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Also something interesting about this seasons final 4 teams. Suns starting 5: 4 lottery picks, 1 second round pick Clippers starting 5: 1 lottery pick, 2 mid 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks Bucks starting 5: 1 lottery pick, 2 mid 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks Hawks starting 5: 1 lottery pick, 4 mid to late 1st round picks Phoenix: 3 drafted by Phoenix (Booker, Bridges, and Ayton) Clippers: 0 draft by LA Clippers Milwaukee: 1 drafted by Milwaukee (Giannis) Atlanta: 3 drafted by Atlanta (Young, Huerter, and Collins) I'm not really seeing any correlation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, CWood21 said: Phoenix: 3 drafted by Phoenix (Booker, Bridges, and Ayton) Clippers: 0 draft by LA Clippers Milwaukee: 1 drafted by Milwaukee (Giannis) Atlanta: 3 drafted by Atlanta (Young, Huerter, and Collins) I'm not really seeing any correlation there. Your point adds to mine. Bad teams think they can build a contender by remaining bad for a few years to acquire a collection of lottery talent that can develop into a contending team. But when you look at the 4 teams remaining only one of their lineups consists primarily of former lottery picks, and they only drafted two (Bridges was drafted by Philly then traded to Phoenix) of those guys. So while everyone is always so focused on the draft, particularly high picks, as the primary means to building a team. This years ECF/WCF teams is the perfect example that most contending teams are able to hit on later picks or find gems via trades that need to be developed or are being dumped for salary purposes. Edited June 27, 2021 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) If the Suns win it all they'll be the only team other than the Warriors during their first championship season to win a title in recent memory with their two best players being guys that they drafted in the lottery. Well I guess the Cavaliers count as well since they did draft LeBron and Kyrie but LeBron had left and came back. Edited June 27, 2021 by NYRaider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Texansfan713 said: Wouldn't be surprised if the Rockets have already told him they're drafting him. Which would also explain why he elected to not work out at the combine when he was originally planning too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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