swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 If true, this clearly had to come from Sean, not George. George may want to come back to Minnesota at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, swede700 said: If true, this clearly had to come from Sean, not George. George may want to come back to Minnesota at this rate. Why would Wilson agree to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: Why would Wilson agree to that? There is absolutely no reason why he would or should have. It's rather ridiculous to try to blackmail a player. Edited December 28, 2023 by swede700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 The biggest takeaway from Wednesday’s stunning news that the Broncos have benched quarterback Russell Wilson is that the Broncos will release him before another $37 million in future salary flips from guaranteed for injury to fully guaranteed. That will need to happen between the first day of the waiver period (right after the Super Bowl) and the fifth day of the league year, which begins on March 13. The transaction will result in $89 million in cap charges, arising from money already paid and his 2024 fully-guaranteed compensation of $39 million. The Broncos can either take the entire hit in 2024, or they can designate Wilson as a post-June 1 release and limit the cap charge to $35.4 million in 2024 and $53.6 million in 2025. The Broncos eventually would get a credit for Wilson’s earnings elsewhere in 2024. If he takes the one-year veteran minimum of $1.21 million from his next team, that’s all the Broncos will get by way of credit. It’s still better than the cap consequences of keeping him. His cap number for 2024 would be $35.4 million under his current deal, along with $55.4 million in 2025. That’s $90.8 million. Also, cutting him saves $37 million in cash. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/cutting-russell-wilson-will-create-a-cap-mess-for-the-broncos-keeping-him-would-too follow the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Who are your 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: The biggest takeaway from Wednesday’s stunning news that the Broncos have benched quarterback Russell Wilson is that the Broncos will release him before another $37 million in future salary flips from guaranteed for injury to fully guaranteed. That will need to happen between the first day of the waiver period (right after the Super Bowl) and the fifth day of the league year, which begins on March 13. The transaction will result in $89 million in cap charges, arising from money already paid and his 2024 fully-guaranteed compensation of $39 million. The Broncos can either take the entire hit in 2024, or they can designate Wilson as a post-June 1 release and limit the cap charge to $35.4 million in 2024 and $53.6 million in 2025. The Broncos eventually would get a credit for Wilson’s earnings elsewhere in 2024. If he takes the one-year veteran minimum of $1.21 million from his next team, that’s all the Broncos will get by way of credit. It’s still better than the cap consequences of keeping him. His cap number for 2024 would be $35.4 million under his current deal, along with $55.4 million in 2025. That’s $90.8 million. Also, cutting him saves $37 million in cash. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/cutting-russell-wilson-will-create-a-cap-mess-for-the-broncos-keeping-him-would-too follow the money. Does Wilson get all of the guaranteed money from this contract plus the money from his next contract or does some of it offset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: Does Wilson get all of the guaranteed money from this contract plus the money from his next contract or does some of it offset? The only thing he's guaranteed is the original $124M he was guaranteed at signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: Does Wilson get all of the guaranteed money from this contract plus the money from his next contract or does some of it offset? i think he can sign with another team for the vet minimum, and Denver has to pay the balance of what's owed. but i'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, swede700 said: The only thing he's guaranteed is the original $124M he was guaranteed at signing. Yes so if he signs for 1 year $10 million, the Broncos would get some cap relief but would still have to pay the 124 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) He won’t be traded. he’ll be cut. He shouldn’t sign a vet min deal. He should look at signing a 2-3 year deal with a low base in the first year, and higher amounts in the following years, something like Watson did. Russ not signing for 1.5M or vet min. Honestly he hasn’t even been “terrible”, this is just a product of more Sean Payton bs. George Payton made the mistake of bringing Sean ‘big personality’ in, and now it could cost you your own job. Edited December 28, 2023 by CriminalMind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: George Payton made the mistake of bringing Sean ‘big personality’ in, and now it could cost you your own job Hiring Sean Payton was in no way a decision by George Paton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Hiring Sean Payton was in no way a decision by George Paton. “In no way” …. C’mon man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: “In no way” …. C’mon man. No. Maybe follow some Broncos insiders and listen to what they’ve said for the past year. Sean Payton was a Walton move. From start to finish. Edited December 28, 2023 by SemperFeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: “In no way” …. C’mon man. It wasn't. It was the new owners' decision. It's why George is pretty much a dead GM walking. The only reason he's still there is because he was just hired in '21. They'll give it another year for him to work with Payton and then he'll likely be shown the door once it becomes clear it's not working. Edited December 28, 2023 by swede700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: No. Maybe follow some Broncos insiders and listen to what they’ve said for the past year. Sean Payton was a Walton move. From start to finish. We’ll I don’t follow broncos insiders. Did George disagree with the hiring or just stay mum on it. Did he fall in line and support the hiring behind closed doors. Russ and George will be the fall guys now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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