LinderFournette Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, .Buzz said: ARob and his production fell off a cliff last year. He’s had to work with bad QB play his whole career and just had the worst season of his career. If our plan to help Trevor is just to sign ARob and nab a mid round receiver (hoping we somehow strike gold on a guy that got overlooked and fell that far) then that’s a terrible plan. Just put him through one of the worst supporting casts a highly drafted rookie QB has been put through. Get him all the weapons he needs and then add more to it. We literally saw what Cincy did for Burrow right in front of our eyes with the drafting of Higgins at the top of round 2 and Chase with a top 5 pick last year. And what did Cincy do in the super bowl. They took a big L cuz their OL couldn't protect Burrows. Not saying Cincinnati made a mistake taking chase over Sewell but they made a massive mistake not attending his Protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, Adrenaline_Flux said: if it was that simple then you wouldn't see those WRs you listed going where they have gone when many lesser WRs have gone in the top 40 the you can find good players at so and so position later in the draft argument can be used about basically every position other than QB I'm saying we need to keep Lawrence from ending up like David Carr and to an extent Joe Burrow's. Burrows sacked 32 in 10 games due to a torn ACL 51 regular season 18 regular season. Tell me how giving him a wr coming off injury (London, Williams, metchie) and pretty much just coming back from injury(Pickens) is going to help this team more then getting a starting trench guy since 3/5 of the starting OL are free agents, and our edge rushers are josh Allen and a rotation edge in smoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: And what did Cincy do in the super bowl. They took a big L cuz their OL couldn't protect Burrows. Not saying Cincinnati made a mistake taking chase over Sewell but they made a massive mistake not attending his Protection. Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Jesus. The man has taken 100 sacks in 2 years plus a torn ACL. Clearly they didn't invest in protection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: The man has taken 100 sacks in 2 years plus a torn ACL. Clearly they didn't invest in protection Buddy you are missing the point. This OL isn’t even close to that OL as far as ineptness. One of Trevor’s best traits is pocket presence and eluding rushers (which is backed up by advanced metrics). No one is saying to not worry about OL/trenches (hell, my first post on this page literally has it listed), but we saw competent protection last year and ineptness offensively due to a lack of playmakers, not protection. Both need to be addressed, but multiple outside playmakers are vital for Trevor’s development. Also feel much better about getting interior OL in rounds 3-5 than finding a potential long term WR1. That’s literally the meat and bones for finding guards and centers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: I'm saying we need to keep Lawrence from ending up like David Carr and to an extent Joe Burrow's. Burrows sacked 32 in 10 games due to a torn ACL 51 regular season 18 regular season. Tell me how giving him a wr coming off injury (London, Williams, metchie) and pretty much just coming back from injury(Pickens) is going to help this team more then getting a starting trench guy since 3/5 of the starting OL are free agents, and our edge rushers are josh Allen and a rotation edge in smoot. We can still go OL at #1. not to mention that better weapons = less time having to hold the football. one of Trevor's strengths too is pocket manipulation. He made the OL look better than it was for a good chunk of the season. I'm not as worried right now about protecting Trevor as I am with giving him more weapons to actually be able to do things on offense. The OL needs improved, but WR is the #1 need heading into the offseason and it really isn't close. The argument about the WR class being deep so grab one later is also an argument that can be used for the EDGE class. It's a deep EDGE class and I think there's a better chance of us grabbing a net+ EDGE at the top of the 3rd than a net+ WR. I'm also interested in seeing what Jordan Smith can do since we didn't really get a chance in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, LinderFournette said: And what did Cincy do in the super bowl. They took a big L cuz their OL couldn't protect Burrows. Not saying Cincinnati made a mistake taking chase over Sewell but they made a massive mistake not attending his Protection. Cincinnati had a pretty improbable run considering how poorly their o-line played. I doubt many teams are using them as a blueprint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, Charles said: Cincinnati had a pretty improbable run considering how poorly their o-line played. I doubt many teams are using them as a blueprint. They went from being a trash franchise to drafting their franchise QB, surrounding him with weapons, and now having likely a long term competitive window. Think you could think of worse blueprints. Doesn’t mean you copy everything they’ve done (especially if they have done things poorly, like not addressing the OL more). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_Flux Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1. Ikem Ekwonu, OT, NC State 33. David Bell, WR, Purdue 65. Travis Jones, IDL, UConn 70. Nik Bonitto, EDGE, Oklahoma 104. Alec Pierce, WR, Cincinnati 156. Cole Strange, IOL, Chattanooga 178. Haskell Garrett, IDL, Ohio State 186. Pierre Strong Jr., RB, South Dakota State 195. Matt Hankins, CB, Iowa 196. Joshua Ross, ILB, Michigan 219. Nick Muse, TE, South Carolina 232. Isaiah Pola-Mao, S, USC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LinderFournette Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 1. Kayvon Thibodeaux EDGE, Oregon starting edge 33. DeMarvin Leal IDL, Texas A&M starting 3tech 65. Darian Kinnard OL, Kentucky can play guard or RT. Should be a capable starter at both 70. Calvin Austin lll WR, Memphis speedy undersized wr. Similar to Mooney. 104. Rasheed Walker OT, Penn state potential starting rt 156. Damarri Mathis DB, Pittsburgh slot corner. 178. D'Marco Jackson LB, Appalachian state Mike lb depth 186. Lecitus Smith IOL, Virginia Tech future starting g 195. Cole Turner TE, Nevada TE depth. 196. Josh Williams CB, Fayetteville State future starting cb. He's a big jar on the shelf with elite tools 219. Nick Grant S, Virginia safety depth. 232. Samori Toure WR, Nebraska wr depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 7:30 mark they say word at the combine is we’re zeroing in on Neal or Ekwonu at 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, .Buzz said: 7:30 mark they say word at the combine is we’re zeroing in on Neal or Ekwonu at 1. It's also lying season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: It's also lying season. …ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted March 2, 2022 Author Share Posted March 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, .Buzz said: …ok But I agree it should be a trench guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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