CWood21 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 20 hours ago, Rainmaker90 said: 21. Another prospect I would gamble on every single time is Eric Stokes, who is also a major hit. Elite speed, teams staying away from him in the SEC, and Kirby Smart saying he's the smartest DB he's ever coached?! Sign me up. Never thought he would be this good this fast. I really feel comfortable going up against anyone. His speed is not just workout speed, and translates onto the field. Even when he gives up completions, he seems to be in a good position. Once he feels confident in his positioning and gets his head up a pinch quicker, I think he's going to be as good as anyone. I'm ready for people to eat crow on him. Especially the ones who thought Tyson Campbell was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm ready for people to eat crow on him. Especially the ones who thought Tyson Campbell was better. You’re bigger on the draft than I am. When I hear a CB with elite speed, who is incredibly smart and didn’t get challenged much , that sounds like a top 15-20 guy easy, someone is def gamble on. why were people so luke-warm on him. His hips don’t look bad, and aren’t most young DBs a tad grabby ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said: Nothing really to disagree with on the @Rainmaker90 list. A ***29 point*** list and there's nothing to really disagree about???Either Rainmakers gotta up the "controversial level" or you've gotta stop being so agreeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Leader said: A ***29 point*** list and there's nothing to really disagree about???Either Rainmakers gotta up the "controversial level" or you've gotta stop being so agreeable 🤣 seriously, wtf is wrong with me. I thought I’d get killed for the ‘call a Fair catch regardless’ take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: why were people so luke-warm on him. His hips don’t look bad, and aren’t most young DBs a tad grabby ? Pretty much. And it was a pretty strong CB class too. You had Caleb Farley, Jaycee Horn, and Patrick Surtain as top CBs in the class. Stokes was a top 20 prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Pretty much. And it was a pretty strong CB class too. You had Caleb Farley, Jaycee Horn, and Patrick Surtain as top CBs in the class. Stokes was a top 20 prospect. Caleb Farley really ruined that night for me. I had him over the 23rd pick and Tennessee took him 22. Didn’t think people would take him with the injury history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Rainmaker90 said: Caleb Farley really ruined that night for me. I had him over the 23rd pick and Tennessee took him 22. Didn’t think people would take him with the injury history Medicals were everything for him. Never really thought he would be on Green Bay's board because of that, but the talent was obvious. If he didn't have the medical concerns, he was a top 5 prospect. Surtain was the cleanest prospect, Horn had best combination of everything, and Farley was the upside play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm ready for people to eat crow on him. Especially the ones who thought Tyson Campbell was better. I was really meh on Stokes so glad he's been better than I thought. My late 1st Rd guy at CB was Samuel and he's been pretty damn good too. Those are probably the top 2 rookie CBs other than the top guys like Surtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, packfanfb said: I was really meh on Stokes so glad he's been better than I thought. My late 1st Rd guy at CB was Samuel and he's been pretty damn good too. Those are probably the top 2 rookie CBs other than the top guys like Surtain. Really on polar opposites as prospects go. Samuel was more instinctive with better ball skills, but he was limited physically. If he didn't translate right away, he was going to be out of the league quickly. Stokes had the skills, but needed time to develop. He's definitely developed faster then I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: You’re bigger on the draft than I am. When I hear a CB with elite speed, who is incredibly smart and didn’t get challenged much , that sounds like a top 15-20 guy easy, someone is def gamble on. why were people so luke-warm on him. His hips don’t look bad, and aren’t most young DBs a tad grabby ? Stokes' biggest thing right now is learning not to panic when he needs to make a play on the ball. The coverage skills are there but we've seen him look bad on reacting to a couple big plays (McLaurin and Jefferson). If he can correct that, that moves him from being "good" to "elite" in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: 🤣 seriously, wtf is wrong with me. I thought I’d get killed for the ‘call a Fair catch regardless’ take. I have been advocating for that for years. Sad that I am longing for the days of Antonio "Fair Catch" Chatman on punt returns. We have an MVP quarterback, just don't screw it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Really on polar opposites as prospects go. Samuel was more instinctive with better ball skills, but he was limited physically. If he didn't translate right away, he was going to be out of the league quickly. Stokes had the skills, but needed time to develop. He's definitely developed faster then I thought. Yup, that's why I thought Samuel was more plug and play, even if the ceiling is shorter and figured Stokes would basically need a redshirt year before seeing any type of results. Glad he's come along much quicker on a team that needs him to be good right now, especially without 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Stokes' biggest thing right now is learning not to panic when he needs to make a play on the ball. The coverage skills are there but we've seen him look bad on reacting to a couple big plays (McLaurin and Jefferson). If he can correct that, that moves him from being "good" to "elite" in this league. I think we’re saying thing, I just think ‘panic’ isn’t the best way to describe it. He needs to trust his speed, positioning and get his head up just a tick quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said: I have been advocating for that for years. Sad that I am longing for the days of Antonio "Fair Catch" Chatman on punt returns. We have an MVP quarterback, just don't screw it up! Seriously. Idt the incredible 10-15 yard return that probably will get called back anyway is worth turning the ball over. hell, put Davante back there and just tell him to catch the ball and be done with it 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Mazrimiv said: I feel like GB at their best beats DAL at their best, and there is a decent amount of margin for error. To me, DAL is one of the more overrated teams in the league. It's good for the league when DAL is a good team, so any time they are even decent, the talking heads give them plenty of hype. They pose problems when their o-line and 3 WR's are healthy. Micah Parsons is a fricking stud too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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