Jeremy408 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: I think it makes more sense to come to Las Vegas with Ziegler and McDaniels, two guys he has worked with for almost a decade. In New England he'll always be an assistant, regardless of title, he's not going to get a ton of credit if their defense is good. If he comes to LV he'd be receiving a promotion and working with an offensive minded head coach like Josh he'd more or less have full control over everything. If he comes here as the leader of the defense and succeeds it'd be a huge boost for his resume. I think if you stick with Belichick you're almost guaranteed a job eventually lolol it's been like proven for like 20 years already. Where is McDaniels if it doesn't work out you're back on the street. This is actually a more fragile situation than a lot of people think it is. If McDaniels doesn't win right away I can see this getting really bad. That's why if I was Mayo I would wait another year in NE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Joe Burrow was the #1 overall pick and was a flawless prospect. Using him as an example of anything is bad to begin with. You’re missing the point. It is not about Burrow being #1 . It is a rookie scale contract reaching the super bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, bucksavage1 said: You’re missing the point. It is not about Burrow being #1 . It is a rookie scale contract reaching the super bowl It does create that window. But even besides that the Bengals are pretty cheap football team because of the fact that burrow tore his ACL his rookie year so they were able to get Ja'Marr Chase which should've been impossible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: And Matt Stafford joins the ranks of Brady, Foles, and many others that show the opposite is just as likely. Missing the point again. Hall of fame talent or Rookie scale QB contract teams Foles and Wentz QB rooms weren’t heavily spent on. Allowed Eagles to bolster team This is the evidence how to win in the NFL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: You’re missing the point. It is not about Burrow being #1 . It is a rookie scale contract reaching the super bowl You're missing my point. A lot of people are on the "anyone but Carr" train and I think it's idiotic. Find a chance to get an elite guy and do it. If you don't, don't flounder in mediocrity with talent on the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: It does create that window. But even besides that the Bengals are pretty cheap football team because of the fact that burrow tore his ACL his rookie year so they were able to get Ja'Marr Chase which should've been impossible I don’t think the Bengals would of had a significantly different record last year with Burrow healthy. Chase probably goes 5-8 anyway last year. Most teams in that position take Sewell Burrow being on the rookie scale allowed them to bolster their defense. Hendrickson, Reeder etc Edited January 31, 2022 by bucksavage1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: I think if you stick with Belichick you're almost guaranteed a job eventually lolol it's been like proven for like 20 years already. Where is McDaniels if it doesn't work out you're back on the street. This is actually a more fragile situation than a lot of people think it is. If McDaniels doesn't win right away I can see this getting really bad. That's why if I was Mayo I would wait another year in NE With McDaniels he would essentially have full control over the defense though, that will not be the case in New England. If he cannot succeed as a coordinator or is too worried about it to take the job, that's not a great sign for him as a potential head coaching candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: You're missing my point. A lot of people are on the "anyone but Carr" train and I think it's idiotic. Find a chance to get an elite guy and do it. If you don't, don't flounder in mediocrity with talent on the roster. I understand your point but when you invest in a QB that can’t carry your team past the finish line, the odds of success is significantly lower. Less to spend on the rest of the roster. Then you get people saying the team doesn’t have enough around the QB to succeed. Like majority of Carr supporters have always claimed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, bucksavage1 said: I understand your point but when you invest in a QB that can’t carry your team past the finish line, the odds of success is significantly lower. Less to spend on the rest of the roster. Then you get people saying the team doesn’t have enough around the QB to succeed. Like majority of Carr supporters have always claimed If you manage the roster well, which we haven't, you can do it. The cap goes up every year. Carr is not going to get an astronomical deal. No one is implying that. It won't severely limit us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: I don’t think the Bengals would of had a significantly different record last year vs this year . Chase probably goes 5-8 anyway last year. Most teams in that position take Sewell Burrow being on the rookie scale allowed them to bolster their defense. Hendrickson, Reeder etc They would've won at least two more games and that would've been the difference. If they won one more game that changes everything. Think about it this way: It's the difference between if Jimmy Garoppolo hadn't torn his ACL that one year and then they end up getting Nick Bosa instead of us. That stuff matters. Because it basically means that somebody that's not as add as they should've been got a superior Player than they should've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Bengals taking Chase over the "safe" pick over Sewell was great example of a modern org getting it. Big time all pro WR >> All pro LT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: If you manage the roster well, which we haven't, you can do it. The cap goes up every year. Carr is not going to get an astronomical deal. No one is implying that. It won't severely limit us. Carr is going to get like $27-31M APY, we will have to draft well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Wonder if we will get the official announcement of McDaniels in the next 25 minutes before the press conference starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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agarcia34 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 There’s 3 chairs at the press conference table so looks like he will be introduced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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