turtle28 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) The first official Turtle đ˘ mock off-season. If you want the correct answers & to know what the front office will absolute ignore, as they never do what I think they should, youâve come to the right  place! Cut 1. Landon Collins: Everyone in here knows Iâve loved Collins as a SS since college & wanted us to draft him in the 2015 NFL Draft but there are two issues: A. He simply makes too much $. I definitely think Rivera/the Martyâs and Rogers will offer a restructure opportunity to Collins before outright cutting him and Collins would be stupid to not take it bc even if his salary is cut in half next year to $8 million like it should be, he isnât getting anything but $5 mil or maybe even less as a FA on the open market after continuing to be a liability in coverage since we signed him in 2019 and tearing his achillies in 2020. Yes he returned and played pretty well last year coming back from the injury but itâs still a red flag that will affect his stock on the open market.  B. Keeping Collins means the continued stunting development of Jamin Davis. Jamin shouldâve been our starting WLB since the minute we drafted him. They shouldnât have forced making Jamin a MLB as a rookie, it was an awful decision & like allowing Collins to play S in September, the decision cost us games. Especially when you had a vet like Bostic returning who was our starting MLB the year before when our D played much better the second half of the season & we definitely shouldâve signed a different vet last year to be an upgrade over Bostic too. Bostic shouldâve been our back up MLB. Hudson backing up Collins at WLB & Davis backing up Holcomb at SLB since day 1 of the off-season last year. Jamin needs to play & play where Collins played most of last season at WLB. Therefore, I think they should & will cut Collins & designate him as a June 1st cut thus saving $11 million.  Re-sign/Extend 1. Terry McLaurin: 5 years, $100 million w/ a $30 million signing bonus, $50 million guaranteed at signing and $60 million guaranteed. *2022 cap hit is $12 million*  2. Daron Payne: 4 years, $50 million w/ a $10 million signing bonus, $15 million guaranteed at signing and $25 million guaranteed. As everyone knows, I donât want them to re-sign Payne. Itâs not bc I donât like Payne - I love him - but I think paying two DTs $30 plus million a year is bad salary cap allocation & I want to keep Sweat & Young long term more than I do Payne bc edge rushers are more valuable & harder to replace than a NT. I would rather them trade him for a 2nd round pick & a mid to late round pick but the reports are they are currently working on a contract extension and Iâm trying to make my predictions correct as to what I feel Ron & the Martyâs will do, this is NOT a Turtle đ˘ wish list. * 2022 cap hit is $8.5 million* 3. JD McKissic: 3 years, $9 million 4. Bobby McCain: 2 years $8 million 5. DeAndre Carter: 3 years, $5 million 6. Cam Sims: 3 years, $5 million 7. Cornelius Lucas: 2 years $5 million 8. Ricky Seals Jones: 2 years, $3 million 9. Spencer Larsen: 1 year, $715,000 Free Agent signings 1. Mitchell Trubisky: 1 year, $10 million (prove it contract for him, same as Fitz last year) 2. Quandre Diggs: 4 years, $50 million w/ a $10 million signing bonus, $15 million guaranteed at signing and $25 million guaranteed. *2022 cap hit is $10 million* 3. Cedric Wilson, WR from Cowboys: 3 years $20 million w/ a $5 million signing bonus & $10 million guaranteed. 4. DeMario Davis: 2 years, $15 million w/ a  Draft: Round 1, we have a trade! The Washington Commanders trade #11, #42 & their 2023 first round pick to the Jets to get their #4 selection. Again, this is not what Iâd do, but I feel Ron will bc he feels desperate just like Dan/Bruce in 2012 when they traded up for RG3. 1st Round #4 pick: Malik Willis, QB, Liberty Round 3: Damone Clark, ILB, LSU Round 4: Nick Cross, FS, UMD Round 6: Christopher Allen, DE, Alabama Round 7: Ellis Brooks, LB Penn State  2022 Commanders Roster QB: Trubisky, Heinicke, Willis (1st rnd) RB: Gibby, McKissic, Patterson WR: Terry, Dyami WR: Cooper, Sims Slot: Samuel, Carter TE: Logan, RSJ, Bates, Reyes LT: Leno, Lucas LG: Flowers, Charles C : Roullier, Ismael RG: Wes S, Larsen RT: Cosmi Total: 25  Defense RDE: Young, Christopher Allen (6th rnd), Shaka Toney DT: Jon Allen, Daniel Wise NT: Payne, Ioannidis LDE: Sweat, JSW WLB: Jamin Davis, Hudson MLB: DeMario Davis, Damone Clark (3rd round) SLB: Holcomb, Ellis Brooks (7th round) RCB: Fuller, St. Juste LCB: WJ3, Daryl Roberts Slot: Bobby McCain, Danny Johnson SS: Curl, Forest FS: Diggs, Nick Cross (4th round) Total: 25  K: Joey Slye P: Tress Way LS: Cheesman KR: DeAndre Carter PR: DeAndre Carter Edited March 7, 2022 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I havenât fully read or digested all of it, and Iâm sleepy and a few glasses of wine sloshing around in my brain â but just as an initial reaction, I donât think thereâs any world where Terry McLaurin gets 5/100 with 50M guaranteed and Amari Cooper gets 4/50 with 15M guaranteed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 4 hours ago, e16bball said: I havenât fully read or digested all of it, and Iâm sleepy and a few glasses of wine sloshing around in my brain â but just as an initial reaction, I donât think thereâs any world where Terry McLaurin gets 5/100 with 50M guaranteed and Amari Cooper gets 4/50 with 15M guaranteed. Probably right. Let me know what you think about that when youâre awake man. I always defer to you, Woz & Thai on contract stuff like that. Iâll change it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor made Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Props to you Turtle for making a realistic offseason. I get tired of going on here and seeing mocks and offseason where we have 3 second round picks. It's not exciting but resigning our current players is good. I am fine with signing one big free agent in Amari Cooper or Quandre Diggs but I'm not sure we should sign both. I still have not watched Damone Clark play. I know he is one of your favorites. He had a good Senior Bowl iirc. I can't wait to see how he looks at the combine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 5, 2022 Author Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, taylor made said: Props to you Turtle for making a realistic offseason. I get tired of going on here and seeing mocks and offseason where we have 3 second round picks. It's not exciting but resigning our current players is good. I am fine with signing one big free agent in Amari Cooper or Quandre Diggs but I'm not sure we should sign both. I still have not watched Damone Clark play. I know he is one of your favorites. He had a good Senior Bowl iirc. I can't wait to see how he looks at the combine. Youâre right on Coop or Diggs but not both, I think that was @e16bballâs point as well. In that case I think theyâll sign a FS and not another WR making over $10 mil, but I could be wrong. Rivera really likes McCain, so if heâs re-signed heâll probably be our starting Fs again. If thatâs the case I hope we sign a good slot corner bc that hurt us more than anything to start the season last year in coverage on top of poor LB coverage & blown coverages deep the first half of the year. As I was writing that our coverage was an ish show last year to start the season! Which we all knew but still! đ Edited March 5, 2022 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsin2013 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 No to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 One initial thought from this is do we even have the cap space for this? Thereâs like 45 million burned on 4 players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 1)Trade for Watson 2)Sign WR Amari Cooper as a FA (when he's cut) 3)Draft FS Kyle Hamilton if our #11 is still in possession, after the Watson trade. That's what we SHOULD do.... What we will probably do.... 1) Sign Mitch Trubisky to a 6 yr 140 million dollar deal. 2)Trade for Christian McCaffrey, as he gets hurt in Week 1. 3)Draft worse possible player in round 3, cause we don't have a 1 or 2 cause of the McCaffrey trade. Lose as usual  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 3 hours ago, aceinthehouse said: 1)Trade for Watson 2)Sign WR Amari Cooper as a FA (when he's cut) 3)Draft FS Kyle Hamilton if our #11 is still in possession, after the Watson trade. That's what we SHOULD do.... What we will probably do.... 1) Sign Mitch Trubisky to a 6 yr 140 million dollar deal. 2)Trade for Christian McCaffrey, as he gets hurt in Week 1. 3)Draft worse possible player in round 3, cause we don't have a 1 or 2 cause of the McCaffrey trade. Lose as usual  Yeah, getting Watson is the dream scenario but I think Watson will refuse to come here, maybe we trade for Jimmy G or Wentz instead of signing a Trubisky, Bridgewater, Mariota, Tyrod or Winston but Iâm hooding we do the latter and not trade a pick or 2 to get Wentz or Jimmy G. I think Kyle Hamilton goes too 5, if not top 10, Iâll be shocked if heâs fall to us at 11. If we trade for Watson Iâm assuming weâd have to trade #1 so we wouldnât be able to draft Hamilton anyways⌠correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 My two most likely QBs are Garropolo and Trubisky.  This is going to be such a disappointing off-season, but I think youâve nailed what they are going to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 6, 2022 Author Share Posted March 6, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, MikeT14 said: One initial thought from this is do we even have the cap space for this? Thereâs like 45 million burned on 4 players I looked into it & no. I think Iâm going to drop Coopee from my FA signing, re-sign Humphries instead or another WR. I think Iâm going to sign Cedric Wilson, the Cowboys WR who broke out this year to a cheaper contract. Edited March 7, 2022 by turtle28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 2:18 PM, turtle28 said: Yeah, getting Watson is the dream scenario but I think Watson will refuse to come here, maybe we trade for Jimmy G or Wentz instead of signing a Trubisky, Bridgewater, Mariota, Tyrod or Winston but Iâm hooding we do the latter and not trade a pick or 2 to get Wentz or Jimmy G. I think Kyle Hamilton goes too 5, if not top 10, Iâll be shocked if heâs fall to us at 11. If we trade for Watson Iâm assuming weâd have to trade #1 so we wouldnât be able to draft Hamilton anyways⌠correct? Yea, if we trade for Watson? We most likely won't have the #11 pick. Of course, it's not impossible. There could always be a deal like... 2022=2nd & 3rd 2023=1st & 2nd 2024=1st & 2nd DT Daron Payne But if that we're to happen, I would be advocating on trading down from @#11 anyways. (Unless Kyle Hamilton happen to be there at 11) He's the type of player you don't pass up, if he's there. Which is why I'll be shocked too, if he's sitting there at 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 10:49 AM, Skinsin2013 said: No to this. Well the pint of this mock off-season wasnât to put forth what Iâd do, it was to put forth what weâll end up doing after we canât trade for the top QBs. Just trying to be realistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 Well Iâve already swung and missed on my guess at QB. đ Seeing that we traded for Wentz, I donât see us going QB in round 1. If the rumor is true and we donât re-sign McKissic, I think in round 4 or 5 weâll take a RB. So Iâm not changing up my FA predictions much except that McKissic wonât be back & we wonât be able to afford Quandre Diggs so weâll go FS in rind 2. So here goes my new draft prediction: Round 1: Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State Round 2: Lewis Cine, FS, Georgia Round 4: Brandon Smith, LB, Penn State Round 6: Brian Robinson, RB, Alabama Round 7: Josh Sills, G, Ok St. Round 7: Tyler Goodson, RB, Iowa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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