Doc Draper Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 23 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Isn't Jordan Reed contributing 12 games a season worth more than a 6th round pick? This is from SportTrac; If we are paying him 9.4m for 12 games thats effectively 11.7m for a full 16 game schedule. Hes gifted, no doubt, but not worth that much. Now if we had a contract paying him 6M then maybe its worthwhile, but still the offense cant count on him and everything changes when he is out. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/tight-end/ Jimmy Graham TIGHT END $10,000,000 2 Travis Kelce TIGHT END $9,368,400 3 Jordan Reed TIGHT END $9,350,000 4 Rob Gronkowski TIGHT END $9,000,000 5 Zach Ertz TIGHT END $8,500,000 6 Charles Clay TIGHT END $7,600,000 7 Greg Olsen TIGHT END $7,500,000 8 Jason Witten TIGHT END $7,400,000 9 Dwayne Allen TIGHT END $7,350,000 10 Kyle Rudolph TIGHT END $7,300,000 11 Coby Fleener TIGHT END $7,200,000 12 C.J. Fiedorowicz TIGHT END $7,166,667 13 Martellus Bennett TIGHT END $7,000,000 Jermaine Gresham TIGHT END $7,000,000 15 Delanie Walker TIGHT END $6,687,500 16 Vance McDonald TIGHT END $6,550,000 17 Jack Doyle TIGHT END $6,300,000 18 Julius Thomas TIGHT END $6,100,000 19 Dion Sims TIGHT END $6,000,000 20 Antonio Gates TIGHT END $5,500,000 21 Jared Cook TIGHT END $5,300,000 22 Vernon Davis TIGHT END $5,000,000 23 Rhett Ellison TIGHT END $4,500,000 24 Brent Celek TIGHT END $4,333,333 25 Marcedes Lewis TIGHT END $4,000,000 Levine Toilolo TIGHT END $4,000,000 27 Benjamin Watson TIGHT END $3,500,000 28 Eric Ebron TIGHT END $3,062,287 29 Ryan Griffin TIGHT END $3,000,000 30 Virgil Green TIGHT END $2,800,000 31 O.J. Howard TIGHT END $2,773,655 32 Zach Miller TIGHT END $2,750,000 James Hanna TIGHT END $2,750,000 Anthony Fasano TIGHT END $2,750,000 35 Evan Engram TIGHT END $2,679,576 36 Garrett Celek TIGHT END $2,550,000 37 David Njoku TIGHT END $2,381,274 38 Josh Hill TIGHT END $2,366,667 39 Lee Smith TIGHT END $2,250,000 40 Demetrius Harris TIGHT END $2,100,000 41 Tyler Eifert TIGHT END $2,064,000 42 Ed Dickson TIGHT END $2,033,333 43 Niles Paul TIGHT END $2,000,000 Lance Kendricks TIGHT END $2,000,000 45 Luke Willson TIGHT END $1,800,000 46 Michael Hoomanawanui TIGHT END $1,733,333 47 Mychal Rivera TIGHT END $1,625,000 48 Luke Stocker TIGHT END $1,600,000 49 Hunter Henry TIGHT END $1,595,077 50 Gerald Everett TIGHT END $1,511,117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 4 hours ago, mike23md said: Woz, I can appreciate the analytical perspective, but that is assuming that each and every player is equal to the person to his right or left. Its not. Honestly, I would gladly take a Troy Niklas or Austin Sefarian Jenkins over Jordan Reed at this point. They both have shown they can be productive and stay on the field. Oh, and both are free agents at the end of this year. I know that not every player is equal to the others on the roster. That's why I was leaning towards keeping Reed. Niklas and ASJ's status for this coming year is somewhat irrelevant since Reed has a guaranteed salary in 2018 (well, you'd have to trade him really early in March before the league year begins to avoid it guaranteeing). I was under the impression you were using 2018 as a go/no-go year, or at the very least a hopefully "look at this shiny sports car!" kind of year for Reed to rehabilitate his value. Signing either of the other two would be somewhat of a waste since that kind of hints that you're trying to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 The front office needs the coaching staff and Cousins to try more passes to Jeremy Sprinkle. They have to know that whatever they get from Davis in the next couple of years is essentially found money, and Niles Paul is a known commodity (I don't want to get into argument about whether to keep him or not). The one wild card/unknown is Sprinkle. If he can catch effectively, then maybe they can start investigating trading Reed. If not, then either they need to draft yet another TE (somewhat of a waste for this coming year, due to the roster composition (I don't know what the TE class looks like)), or they need to keep Jordan around and accept that they'll only get 60-75% of a season out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertuzzi Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 So is reed out again vs saints. Really could use him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I’d never trade Jordan Reed. Even if we only get 12 or 13 games out of him every year, his production is invaluable to our passing offense. The exact reason we signed Vernon Davis is because not only does he compliment Reed well in the passing game because he’s more of a straight line speed guy where Reed does he damage through elite route running and quick movements/jab step moves but because we expect Reed to miss a few games every year and Davis can fill the void we have when Reed is out with injury every year. I suspect that if Sprinkle doesn’t develop into a good #2 pass catching TE in the next few years - which I expect him to because I already like the little I’ve seen from him this year - that we will draft a mid round TE when Davis retires in a few years who is hopefully a good blocker and receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripsean21 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 All I know is he, Ertz and Kelsey got paid the same offseason. And Jordan has been the least productive! The dude gets hurt running routes like the man don’t stretch or something. I️ like him wouldn’t trade him for a 6th. But you best believe I’d draft a top notch TE if the value was there early. He had one year where he trained with Trent in the offseason and he played in 14 games started 12. You have JD developing into a weapon and it looks like Mo Harris is going to be a stud. If The ghost of Crowder can go away and we get the dependable mistake free Crowder back along with a motivated Jordan Reed we have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 SURPRISE SURPRISE. Guess who is out, Uh-gain. Jordan Reed. Out for Thursday against the Giants. Earn that check to pay your medical bills son. I just don't see how you can afford to keep the (barely) walking bandage around. Gawd. So frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Draper Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 If we got anything like ior better than a 3rd he’d be gone faster than I can write this response. In order to win you have to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 It’s a hamstring injury, they are tricky. Reed had a set back last week when he was pushing it and thought he could play. He shouldn’t push it to come back 7ntil he’s close to 100%. We also should know hamstring injuries can keep players our for weeks or months based upon Djax missing 7 games in 2015. I’d rather him take it slow and come back the last 3 or 4 games than to hurt it more like last week in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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