Madmike90 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, G08 said: Communication shuts off at 15 seconds, so he's actually getting the answers well before that. It's why they have one word concepts like Tupac (loved that they used that) which tells everyone their assignment. It's pretty awesome to see and well executed, but it's a gimmick. And yeah I'd love to have Trubisky do that, but it's the NFL man, teams will adjust at some point. Of course teams will adjust but that doesn't mean we can't...there is no perfect candidate out there but we need to put our faith in someone to be able to continue to be innovative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 hours ago, topwop1 said: I mean there's a chance he could bring DeFillipo. There is a semi connection there with knowing Doug Pederson. I like Toub but I don't think he ends up in Chicago. Bears hiring him would tell me that Pace isn't really in charge and I think I'd much rather them hire an offensive HC to pair with MT10. My money is on Toub to Indi. An issue with Toub in Chicago would be expectations. Hire him here and we’d immediately see nonstop Ditka comparisons. In Indi, he’d be free and easy just to do his thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, IronMike84 said: My money is on Toub to Indi. An issue with Toub in Chicago would be expectations. Hire him here and we’d immediately see nonstop Ditka comparisons. In Indi, he’d be free and easy just to do his thing. Chris Ballard clearly really wants him...Irsay on the other hand might want to make a splash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 hours ago, G08 said: Communication shuts off at 15 seconds, so he's actually getting the answers well before that. It's why they have one word concepts like Tupac (loved that they used that) which tells everyone their assignment. It's pretty awesome to see and well executed, but it's a gimmick. And yeah I'd love to have Trubisky do that, but it's the NFL man, teams will adjust at some point. It’s not at all a gimmick. It’s a feature of the Erhardt-Perkins system, which is pretty widely-used. Rather than using the long WCO verbiage or a numbering system, it uses route concepts, just like you said. Those route concepts can be codenamed to use in the huddle or even at the line. So if the defense is showing Cover 3 and the QB wants to run a Smash concept against it, maybe the term the offense is using for smash is “REO Speedwagon.” That can be be called out at the line, the receivers know the concept is Smash, and the defense shouldn’t know what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Chris Ballard clearly really wants him...Irsay on the other hand might want to make a splash. Man...I just hate it when owners meddle in coaching decisions. Either you hire the coach and let him pick his own GM or you hire a GM and let him pick his own coach. None of this telling the GM who to hire like the Bears apparently did with Fox to Pace. I think Toub is long overdue for a HC job and Indy would be a fantastic fit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, IronMike84 said: It’s not at all a gimmick. It’s a feature of the Erhardt-Perkins system, which is pretty widely-used. Rather than using the long WCO verbiage or a numbering system, it uses route concepts, just like you said. Those route concepts can be codenamed to use in the huddle or even at the line. So if the defense is showing Cover 3 and the QB wants to run a Smash concept against it, maybe the term the offense is using for smash is “REO Speedwagon.” That can be be called out at the line, the receivers know the concept is Smash, and the defense shouldn’t know what it means. Not huddling and getting to the LOS with 22 seconds on the clock, while your offensive coordinator surveys the defense and tells the QB what play to call, to me, is a gimmick. Once upon a time, players like Peyton Manning did all that work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 12 hours ago, Madmike90 said: I would much rather have an offensive guy but I would take Toub before any defensive guy out there. Toub is on my good coach list. I am confident that his teams would at least be ready to play and not "no show" multiple games, which would be a huge sad step for the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 “A lot of things [Goff] was doing at Cal, he did it at the line of scrimmage with one-word codes,” Olson said. “There’s a little bit more to that in the NFL.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerthat Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Off Topic and a side note: How stupid were the packers for risking Aaron Rodgers like that. I don't wish people getting hurt but that would have been a little social justice if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hub Arkush: Ryan Pace has 3 or 4 names on his short list of candidates he wants to interview, and they will NOT be the usual suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, G08 said: Hub Arkush: Ryan Pace has 3 or 4 names on his short list of candidates he wants to interview, and they will NOT be the usual suspects. My guess is it is going to be the young offensive guys that are only started to get love this year. I do not think we are going to see McDaniels or Patricia at Halas Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, WindyCity said: My guess is it is going to be the young offensive guys that are only started to get love this year. I do not think we are going to see McDaniels or Patricia at Halas Hall. My guess: DeFilippo, Nagy, LaFleur, Carmichael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 After watching the failings of guys like Mel Tucker and Dowell Loggains and Jeff Rodgers I really want Pace to come out strong and get his guy and then jump the assistant coach market. Honestly, I think it is as important to get out in front of that market as it is to get your guy at the HC spot. We have now seen multiple season torpedoed by terrible coordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, WindyCity said: After watching the failings of guys like Mel Tucker and Dowell Loggains and Jeff Rodgers I really want Pace to come out strong and get his guy and then jump the assistant coach market. Honestly, I think it is as important to get out in front of that market as it is to get your guy at the HC spot. We have now seen multiple season torpedoed by terrible coordinators. Agreed 110%. Look at the 49ers staff and try not to vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, G08 said: Agreed 110%. Look at the 49ers staff and try not to vomit. I know they wanted to steal Fangio so badly. The Bears have an advantage that they do not have to hire a GM so they should get out of the gate quickly. I do not need an exhaustive Emery interview everyone with a pulse search. We need to do well in the assistant coach market, even more so if we hire an inexperienced HC. We need an offensive staff from top to bottom. The group we have is hot garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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