NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Free agency ain't over. It's the same every year after the draft good players get cut. Ziegler said you use free agency to fill needs so that you can go BPA in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, Raiderlife24 said: If you get that mad about them not signing an injury prone player their old team didn't want you should probably go find another hobby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Ziegler said you use free agency to fill needs so that you can go BPA in the draft. Either way you go bpa in the draft and still fill needs 2nd wave of free agency after the draft. It's not that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, raidr4life said: Either way you go bpa in the draft and still fill needs 2nd wave of free agency after the draft. It's not that hard. I value your opinion, but Ziegler said their strategy is to fill needs in free agency before the draft so that they can go BPA. So I'm assuming he thought WR was by far our biggest need, but it also makes sense now as to why Mark said he's being misguided and still doesn't know what he's doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderlife24 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, NYRaider said: NY be quiet. You are bipolar. You were down for Jimmy now you're not. This is what free agency is, signing players their teams decided not too. It's a gamble. Have you ever made a mistake? Whatever they do, they will be criticized. Some fans will complain about everything happening or not happening in March with a team that has been horrible for 20 years. It's hilarious and kind of sad at the same time 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Raiderlife24 said: NY be quiet. You are bipolar. You were down for Jimmy now you're not. This is what free agency is, signing players their teams decided not too. It's a gamble. Have you ever made a mistake? Whatever they do, they will be criticized. Some fans will complain about everything happening or not happening in March with a team that has been horrible for 20 years. It's hilarious and kind of sad at the same time 😄 I'm fine with Jimmy. I'm just saying that they clearly weren't avoiding former players due to injury concerns considering what they paid Chandler/JG. I just find it amusing how much they contradict themselves. Obviously anything in free agency is going to be a gamble, you're in denial though if you think that they've shown a commitment to improving the OL/defense. And yes @big_palooka we remember they spent a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th on those groups in the draft and about $13.99 on minimum deal guys in free agency this year. Edited March 29, 2023 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 It’s obvious all these WRs we signed aren’t making the team w/exception of Meyers. Unless we trade Renfrow, Only 3 are making it Dorsett/Cole/Carter/Sims/Turner/Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 theyve addressed needs in FA. QB, CB, WR, S, LB, TE, DL depth. I think they are banking on some young guys to develop and take another step. Draft and develop. WIth that being said, they need to nail the draft. One thing to consider is that with these lower end deals, we wont be having much dead cap moving forward. That might be playing into it, cleaning the books while building through the draft and signing low risk high reward type players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, bucksavage1 said: It’s obvious all these WRs we signed aren’t making the team w/exception of Meyers. Unless we trade Renfrow, Only 3 are making it Dorsett/Cole/Carter/Sims/Turner/Johnson Adams, Meyers, Renfrow, Carter, Cole, Mims(STs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Geezy said: theyve addressed needs in FA. QB, CB, WR, S, LB, TE, DL depth. I think they are banking on some young guys to develop and take another step. Draft and develop. WIth that being said, they need to nail the draft. One thing to consider is that with these lower end deals, we wont be having much dead cap moving forward. That might be playing into it, cleaning the books while building through the draft and signing low risk high reward type players. WR wasn't a huge need and that's where they've been most invested. QB/TE weren't needs coming into the off-season, they created those holes and then filled them. CB seems to be a wash at best at this point letting Rock walk and replacing him with a bunch of minimum guys that haven't ever been in full time roles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: It’s obvious all these WRs we signed aren’t making the team w/exception of Meyers. Unless we trade Renfrow, Only 3 are making it Dorsett/Cole/Carter/Sims/Turner/Johnson Adams/Renfrow/Meyers/Dorsett/Sims/Carter A legit 4.2 guy, a big bodied possession guy, and a dynamic slot guy behind our main 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, NYRaider said: WR wasn't a huge need and that's where they've been most invested. QB/TE weren't needs coming into the off-season, they created those holes and then filled them. CB seems to be a wash at best at this point letting Rock walk and replacing him with a bunch of minimum guys that haven't ever been in full time roles. Meyers contract is actually pretty good, so I have no problem with that and the rest are negligible. There has to be a reason Rock is still available, either he’s asking for too much or he’s not healthy yet. Waller might come out to equal Meyers + Hopper+ 3rd round pick so I don’t hate it either, especially with his age/injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, Geezy said: Meyers contract is actually pretty good, so I have no problem with that and the rest are negligible. There has to be a reason Rock is still available, either he’s asking for too much or he’s not healthy yet. Waller might come out to equal Meyers + Hopper+ 3rd round pick so I don’t hate it either, especially with his age/injuries. Jimmy/Meyer's contracts are definitely fine from a value perspective but the new regime has made it clear that they're committed to investing major resources into the skill groups while taking a very lean approach to building the OL / defense. They created holes, filled them, added to the strongest group on the team, but really didn't bring in a single veteran OL and only camp bodies on the DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, NYRaider said: WR wasn't a huge need and that's where they've been most invested. QB/TE weren't needs coming into the off-season, they created those holes and then filled them. CB seems to be a wash at best at this point letting Rock walk and replacing him with a bunch of minimum guys that haven't ever been in full time roles. WR2 was a big need. They got one, while getting a 3rd round pick for Waller. CB will be addressed in the draft as it's a deep class. Have good depth there with potential at the 2 spot, need a #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy/Meyer's contracts are definitely fine from a value perspective but the new regime has made it clear that they're committed to investing major resources into the skill groups while taking a very lean approach to building the OL / defense. They created holes, filled them, added to the strongest group on the team, but really didn't bring in a single veteran OL and only camp bodies on the DL. This can happen post draft. Still several serviceable options at Oline and Dline. No need to sign one before the draft. OG are relatively easy to grab in the draft day 3. Lots of Dline depth in the class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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