Jeremy408 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I never wanted JM or DZ, in fact I wanted Mike McDaniel before he was on anyones radar to become a HC. All I knew is that he was being talked about around the NFL circles to become a HC and he was from the 49ers tree. Once JM was hired I was optimistic that the HC/GM combo would be a good thing. I also was optimistic that JM had learned from his prior mistakes and if he was ever going to cut it as a HC his time was now. He was young and was an alleged bright mind yet I was worried that his success was because of BB and TB but had figured he had learned something and was humbled by his time in Denver. That clearly was not the case. He still has a giant ego and has a victim mentality by throwing his players under the bus and not taking accountability. The excuses are running out and he has to take a long hard look in the mirror. I was reserving judgment until after 1 year and after year 1 I knew JM was not the answer. This is a 4ish win team and JM should not be the HC going into next offseason... Bill Belichick is going to keep the score low 90% of the time and Brady is going to win the game 90% of the time. You can look really good as an offensive coordinator when that happens. You can also look good as the assistant general manager when you have a quarterback that can turn water into wine with whatever you give him and a head coach GM that knows exactly what he wants to get defensively. It's when you have to leave that situation and do it on your own that makes that's difficult and we've seen that for decades now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: Bill Belichick is going to keep the score low 90% of the time and Brady is going to win the game 90% of the time. You can look really good as an offensive coordinator when that happens. You can also look good as the assistant general manager when you have a quarterback that can turn water into wine with whatever you give him and a head coach GM that knows exactly what he wants to get defensively. It's when you have to leave that situation and do it on your own that makes that's difficult and we've seen that for decades now. What is very apparent to me is that he has no clue how to coach or call a game without an elite D backing him up. This collection of bums we call a D is once again bottom 3 in the NFL and proving exactly what I assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: What is very apparent to me is that he has no clue how to coach or call a game without an elite D backing him up. This collection of bums we call a D is once again bottom 3 in the NFL and proving exactly what I assumed. Or the team doesn't score points so it has the same affect. That's why I'm very certain we're gonna win next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: He's a dogg Yes, a f@@king poodle 😂 Only joking, he’s who we (mostly all of us) thought he is, a decent game manager with some gumption who can make use of a great roster but can’t elevate a below average one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Yeah we're on the same page. Clear downgrade from last year even though the offense is clearly a better fit. He is clearly a downgrade but I don't get the better fit thing. Does anyone care if he's a better fit in a ****ty scheme where the coach is looking like he should be canned in short order? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 The TDs passes from Allen were almost indefensible. That’s just a elite QB doing elite QB things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 I’m at the 3rd qtr Jacobs just got mossed we doing that thing where the offense doesn’t score anymore after the 1st qtr again wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Tired of seeing spill get ran over death by thousand papercuts in the intermediate game we need lbs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderlife24 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Frankie2Gunz said: He is clearly a downgrade but I don't get the better fit thing. Does anyone care if he's a better fit in a ****ty scheme where the coach is looking like he should be canned in short order? As bad as Jimmy, JMD and this whole organization is, it was time for Carr to go. He not the guy and it was time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: I’m at the 3rd qtr Jacobs just got mossed we doing that thing where the offense doesn’t score anymore after the 1st qtr again wtf Isnt that a Carr thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, Raiderlife24 said: As bad as Jimmy, JMD and this whole organization is, it was time for Carr to go. He not the guy and it was time to move on You never move on from an asset without an upgrade in place. That is foolish from a business perspective and exactly what transpired here. How is that not obvious? You also never turn an asset into a liability which JM and DZ most certainly did. They turned Carr into a liability, received nothing in compensation because of a foolish NTC and are paying him 6M to play in new Orleans. This whole situation is a fireable offense and combine this with bad FA signings, nothing to show draft wise, a bottom 3 D and terrible play calling.... You have the 2023 Raiders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeremy408 said: Isnt that a Carr thing? Ngl I was thinking that only thing is no qb fumbles but 2 ints tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: You never move on from an asset without an upgrade in place. That is foolish from a business perspective and exactly what transpired here. How is that not obvious? You also never turn an asset into a liability which JM and DZ most certainly did. They turned Carr into a liability, received nothing in compensation because of a foolish NTC and are paying him 6M to play in new Orleans. This whole situation is a fireable offense and combine this with bad FA signings, nothing to show draft wise, a bottom 3 D and terrible play calling.... You have the 2023 Raiders... Carr to jimmy was a lateral move imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Carr to jimmy was a lateral move imo Something to think about: -we brought in genius Josh, supposedly one of the best offenses minds in the game -got rid of Derek Carr(who many hail as the problem) replaced him with a natural scheme fit and supposedly better in the red zone in Jimmy Garoppolo(literally handpicked for the scheme when he got drafted) -traded a first & a second for one of the best receivers in the game -signed a receiver that literally just came from where you came from an already knows you're offense for $11 million -With a second in one of your third round picks this year you get a tight end and another receiver And after all that you still have games, where you only score 10 points? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Carr to jimmy was a lateral move imo I disagree and this season will be proof. Carr will have a better statical season and the Saints will win more games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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