the lone star Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Darkness said: The Warriors have the best defense in the league with or without Curry Shows you how good offense can also translate into good defense. Force other teams into bad shots. But obviously they play good defense regardless. Not gonna say that they don't, because they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyto36 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Darkness said: The Warriors have the best defense in the league with or without Curry No way. 11 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Their offense has also been sooo much worse. Offensive rating before Curry injury: 114.6 Offensive rating after Curry injury: 105.9 Defensive rating before Curry injury: 101.7 Defensive rating after Curry Injury: 98.7 Well yes, when you're missing BOTH of your point guards along with DPOY Green, I'd expect there to be some regression. It's not just been Curry out. Doesn't change that Durant is a whole tier above Curry and it's asinine to even consider starting a franchise with Curry over Durant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 With | Without Curry Durant 52.3 FG, 40.2 | 46.5 FG, 38 3PT Thompson 50.5 FG, 40.7 3PT | 44.7 FG, 40.7 3PT Green 46.0, 34.9 3PT | 42.2 FG, 22.2 3PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Curry was the first ever unanimous MVP winner after repeating in back to back seasons, lead his team to back to back Finals, and the best record ever at 73-9 before Durant joined the Warriors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, tonyto36 said: 14 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Their offense has also been sooo much worse. Offensive rating before Curry injury: 114.6 Offensive rating after Curry injury: 105.9 Defensive rating before Curry injury: 101.7 Defensive rating after Curry Injury: 98.7 Well yes, when you're missing BOTH of your point guards along with DPOY Green, I'd expect there to be some regression. It's not just been Curry out. Doesn't change that Durant is a whole tier above Curry and it's asinine to even consider starting a franchise with Curry over Durant. Oh, now you mention all the other players missing. Funny you didn't mention it in the initial post I quoted. Missing DPOY Green wasn't mentioned when you said the Warriors' defense was better without Curry. Curry has a bigger impact on the Warriors' success than Durant does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyto36 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/31/2017 at 12:41 AM, seminoles1 said: Oh, now you mention all the other players missing. Funny you didn't mention it in the initial post I quoted. Missing DPOY Green wasn't mentioned when you said the Warriors' defense was better without Curry. Curry has a bigger impact on the Warriors' success than Durant does. Yes because the defense is better even with Green missing. All that does is strengthen my point. I really don't understand what you're getting at. If you lose two players. One is bad on defense, one is a DPOY, and you still get BETTER on defense that just tells me that the player who is bad on defense is so bad that his absence is better for the defense than having a DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Am I missing something? Your "point" does nothing but prove that Curry is overrated and a black hole on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyto36 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/30/2017 at 9:28 PM, Darkness said: With | Without their starting point guard Durant 52.3 FG, 40.2 | 46.5 FG, 38 3PT Thompson 50.5 FG, 40.7 3PT | 44.7 FG, 40.7 3PT Green 46.0, 34.9 3PT | 42.2 FG, 22.2 3PT Fixed that one for you. I've already pointed this out before. If you're down without your starting point guard (and his backup for a long stretch of time) on a team that has only two point guards on it to start with, yes the offense is going to suffer. And yes the offense also suffered because Curry is an all time shooter. But if you're going into next season and have a full off season to design the team, you're much better off replacing Curry with a mid-level guy like Jeff Teague than replacing a guy like Durant with a mid level guy like Nicholas Batum. Again, with a full off season, you're not going to go into the season with Livingston as your only point guard on the roster. If you had a lineup of Klay-Kawhi-Davis-Porzingis, that team would still struggle if it does not have a point guard on the roster. That is more indicative of that you need a ball handler in the NBA than you need Steph Curry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Curry: 32 MPG, 27 PPG, 6.5 APG, 5 RPG, 49 FG, 40.5 3PT, 93 FT, 66.2 TS How can anyone try downplaying Curry’s impact. The combination of volume and effeciency of his production is unmatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 10:36 AM, tonyto36 said: But if you're going into next season and have a full off season to design the team, you're much better off replacing Curry with a mid-level guy like Jeff Teague than replacing a guy like Durant with a mid level guy like Nicholas Batum. get the [REMOVED BY MODERATOR] outta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Does Durant have a title without Curry? Does Curry have a title without Durant? Problem solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, catcheryea said: 2 hours ago, catcheryea said: get the [REMOVED BY MODERATOR] outta here @catcheryea this is a warning for language. Please don't try to skirt around the language filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, RavensTillIDie said: @catcheryea this is a warning for language. Please don't try to skirt around the language filter. my b honestly thought it would catch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 And look who's killing it without Durant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 2 hours ago, seminoles1 said: And look who's killing it without Durant. It’s almost like Curry was the back to back (unanimous) MVP, leading the Warriors to back to back Finals before Durant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Per 36, Curry is posting pretty similar numbers to his 2016 unanimous MVP season so far. If both Curry and Durant keep up their production throughout the season, they should be near or at the top of the list in MVP voting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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