NYRaider Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: I like to see it in the playoffs. I think it is more personnel combine w/ a good mix of everything else including scheme. Accumulation of high draft picks and hitting on guys like St.Brown late in the draft Most coaches do well with good talent, outside of AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Most coaches do well with good talent, outside of AP. AP has won 3 games with a mid round rookie. Has any other coach won more with a rookie QB outside of Stroud/Ryans? Edited December 20, 2023 by bucksavage1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just now, bucksavage1 said: AP has won 3 games with a mid round rookie. Has any other coach won more with a rookie QB outside of Stroud/Ryans? Brian Daboll has 3 wins with UDFA Tommy Devito and significantly less talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: And yet, in another thread you're saying the interim HC tasked with cleaning up the mess left behind by the jackass you defended to the hilt even after he lost to Jeff Saturday and that still wasn't enough ti get you to even question him, shouldn’t get an opportunity to show he can do his job if he's beaten this weekend by a Hall of Fame level HC with the best QB in the NFL? No, kiddo, that's not a "narrative" or any bent words This isn't some Jade Helm, Area 51, Sasquatch woo. This is your inconsistent "logic" and unsupported bias. See, the thing with you is I don't have to create a narrative about how terrible your takes are, you do that work for me. Sort of like when you accused me of first not saying anything about hiring McDaniels, then you say I did but it was a some defense of Carr- which...I don't know how else to say it, but "gross" has never been used as a defense of anyone in the history of the word. But, sure, it's obviously other people who bend your words. Hopefully daddy dearest didn't blow all his money in Vegas after getting canned and can still afford the Hooked on Phonics and paint by numbers books for you this holiday season. AP also has a rookie QB and 1st time playcaller as OC on the fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just now, NYRaider said: Brian Daboll has 3 wins with UDFA Tommy Devito and significantly less talent And Daboll lost to AP 30-6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Just now, bucksavage1 said: AP also has a rookie QB and 1st time playcaller as OC on the fly But he doesn't have "The Way". Does he get credit for having one of the rings that could've been Brady's? He arguably did more to get that ring than Josh McDaniels actually did to get any of his lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Bottom line for those who seems all in or leaning all in on Pierce. Do you think Antonio Pierce can go toe to toe with Reid or Payton in the next 2-3 years from a coaching standpoint? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Bottom line for those who seems all in or leaning all in on Pierce. Do you think Antonio Pierce can go toe to toe with Reid or Payton in the next 2-3 years from a coaching standpoint? Yes. I gave JMD a chance and was even supportive until it was obvious he lost the team and was over his head. I gave Gruden a chance but year 4 was skeptical and was ready to move on if no playoffs I’d like to see AP at least get a 2 year extension to build upon what he’s shown so far I remember when he was hired before the Giants game people were comparing this to the Jeff Saturday situation. He’s blown Saturday coaching out of the water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 Sideline mic’d up Pierce brought a divided team together that shouldn’t be ignored 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Sideline mic’d up Pierce brought a divided team together that shouldn’t be ignored A divided team that was 2-2 in the month before he took over and 3-3 with him as the head coach including 1-3 over teh most crucial stretch of the season. #GOATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 3 hours ago, bucksavage1 said: They are looked at as a desirable landing spot according to reports. Several high picks draft capital and a ton of cap space going into next season. Most of all a new ownership group A completely unproven ownership group. When has a “new” ownership group worked recently in the NFL? Broncos had a stinker of a start under the Waltons last year, David Tepper is making a huge mess of things right now, Shahid Khan and Jimmy Haslam are another two of the newer owners who also took years of garbage before even a small amount of stability. When you’re new to the game, it can take a while for things to fall into place. That’s not a desirable job imo once you look past the huge cash on offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Bottom line for those who seems all in or leaning all in on Pierce. Do you think Antonio Pierce can go toe to toe with Reid or Payton in the next 2-3 years from a coaching standpoint? Definitely not. Granted the talent is not playoff caliber rn, but we need an offensive mastermind to come in and elevate this squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, big_palooka said: Bottom line for those who seems all in or leaning all in on Pierce. Do you think Antonio Pierce can go toe to toe with Reid or Payton in the next 2-3 years from a coaching standpoint? And more importantly do you trust that he and his offensive staff are ready to develop a young franchise QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 59 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Sideline mic’d up Pierce brought a divided team together that shouldn’t be ignored When was the team ever divided? They played hard, were never blown out. Testament to having good leaders on the team. At no point were they divided. Frustrated with losing sure. But what has really changed outside AOC starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 20, 2023 Author Share Posted December 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, big_palooka said: When was the team ever divided? They played hard, were never blown out. Testament to having good leaders on the team. At no point were they divided. Frustrated with losing sure. But what has really changed outside AOC starting? You don’t remember players/coaches talking about the difference in the locker room etc etc? agree to disagree homie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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