warfelg Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, rlon said: It's hard to know what a rookie will overcome, most of the time. Also, it is said above that coaching means more (and movement skills), but maybe it means 'less' can also be telling. Maybe it means that the player hadn't had the right type of coaching in college and will blossom under a new/pro level coach. Van Pran comes to mind there. Hopefully, there are 5-6 good centers in this draft. I am hoping to not have to take one so early, given the depth of talent at OT, WR and CB. Not too mention the other needs (LB, DL and S). And it could mean those things. But to me, arm length is meaningful when you look at tape and see issues with defenders that cross his face, guys who get good outside leverage, and holding calls. When you scout these guys you need to look at those issues and understand why they happen. So with JPJ you got the measurement on the arms that they are shorter than expected, then go back and rewatch those reps. What I see with JPJ when you look at those reps is he targets the outside shoulder, gets his arm outside the defenders, then can’t reach the other shoulder, so he needs to resort to holding or giving a harder punch and getting off balance. The reason Creed could overcome that is that he got his hands inside the breast plate of the defender, so there you can get away with holding but it also allows you to control the defender better on the cross over moves because they will need to expose their chest coming to you, allowing you to land the counter punch without having to lunge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I think I like the other Washington WR a little more for us than Rome Odunze. Ja'lynn Polk. I also like LSU's "other" WR too. He reminds me of Martavis Bryant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Pat Meyer at Fuaga’s pro day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 https://x.com/aaronwilson_nfl/status/1767280929657987285?s=46&t=xd5QJpZuXv2k7qD0xqd6aA LeoDecaprio.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I think I like the other Washington WR a little more for us than Rome Odunze. Ja'lynn Polk. I also like LSU's "other" WR too. He reminds me of Martavis Bryant. Odunze is much more explosive and athletic than Polk. I like Polk too, and he's a solid hands guy, but Odunze is a better player. Scouts calling him 'can't miss' not only from his athleticism but also from the way he has conducted himself - pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, mwalker said: Odunze is much more explosive and athletic than Polk. I like Polk too, and he's a solid hands guy, but Odunze is a better player. Scouts calling him 'can't miss' not only from his athleticism but also from the way he has conducted himself - pro. I like the other other Washington WR too. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I think I like the other Washington WR a little more for us than Rome Odunze. Ja'lynn Polk. I also like LSU's "other" WR too. He reminds me of Martavis Bryant. Thomas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 14 minutes ago, jebrick said: Thomas? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 hour ago, MOSteelers56 said: Yep Kozora mocked him to us in his first mock draft today. Also said WR in the 1st round isn’t being talked about nearly enough right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 No Khan/Tomlin/Weidl at JPJs pro day. Just Meyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 9 minutes ago, warfelg said: No Khan/Tomlin/Weidl at JPJs pro day. Just Meyer. Does the trend continue under new management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: Does the trend continue under new management? It did last year but the Steelers hate to spend money on travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Georgia Proday tomorrow Arizona Thursday Wisconsin and Penn St Friday March 20th will be the interesting day. Bama, Texas and Ohio St. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/2024-nfl-draft-pro-day-schedule/ar-BB1jHQVt Edited March 12 by jebrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 No representation at JPJs pro day from top brass and a Frazier top 30 visit. Get ready for an overdraft on someone you could have moved down for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, warfelg said: No representation at JPJs pro day from top brass and a Frazier top 30 visit. Get ready for an overdraft on someone you could have moved down for. I would rather reach for Van Pran in the second than Frazier at 1-20... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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