Karnage84 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 17 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said: The Eagles are going to be the Saints in a few years. Its fun now, but the void years are going to kill them. Having 4 and 5 void years is great for reducing hits now but its an all or nothing method that isn't sustainable. At some point, you can't pay guys that much and will have to eat huge losses. The nice thing about the deals we have signed with Goff is he currently has no void years. ARSB has 3 which hurts for sure and Sewell has 1. We can always add them on later if needed but it will get us into that pickle of having a huge dead cap hit for a year or two. And currently with ARSB's structure, his 3 void years are only extending out $16M of salary where as pushing out 97M (that year is his void year so it is all dead money) and AJ Brown is pushing out $55M. They also have Devonta Smith with 4 void years with a cap hit of 36M in 2029 in bonus being pushed out. So the Eagles will have $130M in dead cap in 2029 and at least 55M in 2030. If we need the cap space we will add void years and convert cash to bonus and spread it out but I think our method gives us a lot more ability to manipulate it in the future and allows us actually have it hit our cap in years where we have fewer big contracts along the way. This is kind of what I was getting at. The bulk of the Lions' contracts have a big base salary. That can then be converted into a signing bonus and then spread out for when they need to create cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idoubtit Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 NTC for Goff. I'm not sure I like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 3 hours ago, idoubtit said: NTC for Goff. I'm not sure I like that. They wouldn't be trading him with that cap hit . No team would take that on at his age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 6 hours ago, detfan782004 said: They wouldn't be trading him with that cap hit . No team would take that on at his age At his age? He's 29... If the Lions did want to trade him in a couple years he'd still be in his early 30s, that's not old for a QB. However, even though your reasoning is off the point is valid because if the Lions were looking to trade Goff it would mean he isn't living up to the deal in which case no one would want him anyway. Edited May 18 by rob_shadows 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/17/2024 at 11:31 PM, detfan782004 said: They wouldn't be trading him with that cap hit . No team would take that on at his age He will be the age at the end of this contract that Stafford was when we traded him to the Rams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 15 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said: He will be the age at the end of this contract that Stafford was when we traded him to the Rams. Stafford has elite skills in comparison imo. I wish Stafford had the players around him that Goff does as a whole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 36 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: Stafford has elite skills in comparison imo. I wish Stafford had the players around him that Goff does as a whole Maybe but Christen Harper >>> Kelly Stafford. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 48 minutes ago, Nnivolcm said: Maybe but Christen Harper >>> Kelly Stafford. Lets give some credit where credit is due: Kelly Stafford did her fair share of work in the community while she was here. She also had to watch Matthew Stafford get beat up on the field a lot. I appreciate her moxy and her resilience after enduring brain surgery. She may not be in Detroit anymore but she made a positive difference to a fair amount of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 3 hours ago, Just Want A Title said: Lets give some credit where credit is due: Kelly Stafford did her fair share of work in the community while she was here. She also had to watch Matthew Stafford get beat up on the field a lot. I appreciate her moxy and her resilience after enduring brain surgery. She may not be in Detroit anymore but she made a positive difference to a fair amount of people. Yes she was involved a lot around the city organizations. Tainted her efforts with her mouth but most people do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 11 hours ago, detfan782004 said: Yes she was involved a lot around the city organizations. Tainted her efforts with her mouth but most people do Uh, Ok. That is pretty toxic but that seems like it is par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 7 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: Uh, Ok. That is pretty toxic but that seems like it is par for the course. How is that toxic? It's reality. Most of these people do a lot of good and taint their efforts with their mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 15 minutes ago, detfan782004 said: How is that toxic? It's reality. Most of these people do a lot of good and taint their efforts with their mouths. Yes. You are doing so right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 8 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: Yes. You are doing so right now. Glad you think I'm doing a lot of good. Much appreciated. Have a splendid day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 interesting stat on Goff here... Warren Sharp@SharpFootball Highest rate of red zone incompletions due to inaccurate passes: 60% - Deshaun Watson 59% 58% 57% 56% 55% 54% 53% 52% 51% 50% - Mac Jones 49% 48% 47% 46% 45% - Joshua Dobbs 44% 43% 42% - Sam Howell, Gardner Minshew 41% 40% - Daniel Jones 39% - Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder 38% - Lamar Jackson 37% 36% 35% - Justin Fields, C.J. Stroud 34% 33% - Baker Mayfield, Easton Stick, Tua Tagovailoa, Bailey Zappe 32% - Aidan O'Connell, Bryce Young 31% - Russell Wilson 30% - Tyrod Taylor 29% - Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love 28% 27% - Kyler Murray, Josh Allen 26% - Matthew Stafford 25% - Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence 24% - Brock Purdy 23% - Justin Herbert, Ryan Tannehill, Joe Flacco, Jalen Hurts 22% - Jimmy Garoppolo, Dak Prescott, Zach Wilson 21% - Derek Carr, Geno Smith 20% - Trevor Siemian, Kirk Cousins 19% - Jared Goff 18% 17% - Tommy DeVito 16% 15% - Will Levis 14% 13% 12% 11% 10% 9% - Jake Browning *2023 reg season, min 150 total att in season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 12 hours ago, vike daddy said: interesting stat on Goff here... Warren Sharp@SharpFootball Highest rate of red zone incompletions due to inaccurate passes: 60% - Deshaun Watson 59% 58% 57% 56% 55% 54% 53% 52% 51% 50% - Mac Jones 49% 48% 47% 46% 45% - Joshua Dobbs 44% 43% 42% - Sam Howell, Gardner Minshew 41% 40% - Daniel Jones 39% - Kenny Pickett, Desmond Ridder 38% - Lamar Jackson 37% 36% 35% - Justin Fields, C.J. Stroud 34% 33% - Baker Mayfield, Easton Stick, Tua Tagovailoa, Bailey Zappe 32% - Aidan O'Connell, Bryce Young 31% - Russell Wilson 30% - Tyrod Taylor 29% - Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love 28% 27% - Kyler Murray, Josh Allen 26% - Matthew Stafford 25% - Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence 24% - Brock Purdy 23% - Justin Herbert, Ryan Tannehill, Joe Flacco, Jalen Hurts 22% - Jimmy Garoppolo, Dak Prescott, Zach Wilson 21% - Derek Carr, Geno Smith 20% - Trevor Siemian, Kirk Cousins 19% - Jared Goff 18% 17% - Tommy DeVito 16% 15% - Will Levis 14% 13% 12% 11% 10% 9% - Jake Browning *2023 reg season, min 150 total att in season He generally does a pretty good job with respect to taking care of the football and limiting turnovers. He has is bad moments and bad games but that happens to every QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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