squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: All of them in the league, save for 5 teams under 40% Ok. You are saying the collective RB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: All of them in the league, save for 5 teams under 40% so how many teams in the final 4 of the playoffs over the last 10 years have had a top tier RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Packerraymond said: What are you going to do when any athlete worth a damn in college refuses to play RB? Force your receivers at the pro level to carry the ball as well? Why would I want to subject my body to extra workload without compensation if I'm a receiver? We just going to stop running the football and make football 11 on 11 with 7 on 7 rules? The game doesn't need punters or long-snappers. The game needs runningbacks. Let RB be a work horse position like FB. Also, it's not like there's a choice in the matter. 5'9 guys with a frame too thick to be fast enough to play in the slot will be shoehorned into playing RB. It's not like we don't have Guards and Centers because the money is at Tackle. Edited July 19, 2023 by AlexGreen#20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, squire12 said: so how many teams in the final 4 of the playoffs over the last 10 years have had a top tier RB? 2022: KC, PHI, SF, CIN. SF with CMC 2021: LAR, CIN, KC, SF. 2020: TB, KC, GB, BUF 2019: KC, SF, GB, TEN. TEN with Henry 2018: NE, LAR, KC, NO. LAR with Gurley, NO with Kamara 2017: PHI, NE, MIN, JAX. JAX with Fournette ....maybe 2016: NE, ATL, PIT, GB. PIT with Bell 2015: DEN, CAR, ARI, NE. 2014: NE, SEA, IND, GB. SEA with Lynch, GB with Lacy 2013: SEA, DEN, SF, NE. SEA with Lynch Just not sure that it is necessary to have a top tier RB to make a deep playoff run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, squire12 said: so how many teams in the final 4 of the playoffs over the last 10 years have had a top tier RB? Where am I arguing that the team logic is not sound? That's why to fix the problem something artificial has to be created, as it won't happen naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, squire12 said: So the team gets its full cap space Allotment and 1 RB contract only counts 50% against the cap? Who is supplying the money for that other 50%? The government? Obviously, it would have to be worked into the collective bargaining agreement. @Packerraymond is correct, they are going to have to do something or nobody is going to want to play running back any longer. They take pounding and get paid, relatively speaking, not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Let RB be a work horse position like FB. Also, it's not like there's a choice in the matter. 5'9 guys with a frame too thick to be fast enough to play in the slot will be shoehorned into playing RB. It's not like we don't have Guards and Centers because the money is at Tackle. Sure but let's be honest, no one gives a **** about OG and center play. Fantasy football is a 70 billion dollar industry now, that drives casual viewership. Studs at the skills drives fantasy football interest. The league is better with athletes at the RB position, not just the ones too slow or small to play anywhere else. It's not a good look for the league to have the contractual value of a position deflate over an 8 year period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Another idea would be to let RBs declare after two years in college. That way your studs hit the league at 19 and 20 and hit FA at 24-25-26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Where am I arguing that the team logic is not sound? That's why to fix the problem something artificial has to be created, as it won't happen naturally. so if teams don't need a top tier RB to make a deep playoff run, then maybe your statement below is overly dramatic 17 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: The game doesn't need punters or long-snappers. The game needs runningbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Obviously, it would have to be worked into the collective bargaining agreement. @Packerraymond is correct, they are going to have to do something or nobody is going to want to play running back any longer. They take pounding and get paid, relatively speaking, not much. do you really think you can get 51% of the NFLPA to support something that really helps may 30-50 players?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Sure but let's be honest, no one gives a **** about OG and center play. Fantasy football is a 70 billion dollar industry now, that drives casual viewership. Studs at the skills drives fantasy football interest. The league is better with athletes at the RB position, not just the ones too slow or small to play anywhere else. It's not a good look for the league to have the contractual value of a position deflate over an 8 year period. Fantasy leagues will do just fine. Instead of most starting lineups have 2 RB, it will switch to something else to adjust 1RB and another flex position altering RB scoring for carries, first downs gained, Yards gained being slightly higher Edited July 19, 2023 by squire12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, squire12 said: It's not a good look for the league to have the contractual value of a position deflate over an 8 year period. if WOR works out that the RB position is less valuable as the NFL game has evolved, why shouldn't the contractual value of the top tier RB go down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, squire12 said: so if teams don't need a top tier RB to make a deep playoff run, then maybe your statement below is overly dramatic There's beneficial to the team and beneficial to the league. Only one creates the pool of revenue everyone pulls from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, squire12 said: if WOR works out that the RB position is less valuable as the NFL game has evolved, why shouldn't the contractual value of the top tier RB go down? Why hasn't MLB and SS deflated as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: There's beneficial to the team and beneficial to the league. Only one creates the pool of revenue everyone pulls from. has the league suffered in terms of popularity or revenue over the last 8-10 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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