ny92mike Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 When you label a player EDGE, is that considered 43DE and 34OLB right, it doesn't include 34DE or does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, ny92mike said: I don't think he's ever played linebacker, like this data you posted suggest. He played DE his rookie year when Cleveland played in a 34 defense. Snap Counts Positions listed reflect those shown in the gamebook Share & more Copy Link to Table to Clipboard Off. Def. ST Pos Num Pct Num Pct Num Pct Josh McCown QB 262 25.44% 0 0% 0 0% Josh McCown 2016 game-by-game snap counts Robert Griffin QB 302 29.32% 0 0% 0 0% Robert Griffin 2016 game-by-game snap counts Charlie Whitehurst QB 43 4.17% 0 0% 0 0% Charlie Whitehurst 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cody Kessler QB 349 33.88% 0 0% 0 0% Cody Kessler 2016 game-by-game snap counts Kevin Hogan QB 50 4.85% 0 0% 0 0% Kevin Hogan 2016 game-by-game snap counts Isaiah Crowell RB 568 55.15% 0 0% 1 .22% Isaiah Crowell 2016 game-by-game snap counts Dan Vitale RB 74 7.18% 0 0% 116 26.07% Dan Vitale 2016 game-by-game snap counts Duke Johnson RB 457 44.37% 0 0% 33 7.42% Duke Johnson 2016 game-by-game snap counts George Atkinson RB 22 2.14% 0 0% 230 51.69% George Atkinson 2016 game-by-game snap counts Malcolm Johnson FB 85 8.25% 0 0% 71 15.96% Malcolm Johnson 2016 game-by-game snap counts Terrelle Pryor WR 900 87.38% 1 .09% 0 0% Terrelle Pryor 2016 game-by-game snap counts Corey Coleman WR 533 51.75% 0 0% 0 0% Corey Coleman 2016 game-by-game snap counts Rashard Higgins WR 183 17.77% 0 0% 25 5.62% Rashard Higgins 2016 game-by-game snap counts Andrew Hawkins WR 647 62.82% 0 0% 12 2.70% Andrew Hawkins 2016 game-by-game snap counts Ricardo Louis WR 316 30.68% 0 0% 238 53.48% Ricardo Louis 2016 game-by-game snap counts Mario Alford WR 0 0% 0 0% 32 7.19% Mario Alford 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jordan Payton WR 32 3.11% 0 0% 11 2.47% Jordan Payton 2016 game-by-game snap counts Gary Barnidge TE 968 93.98% 0 0% 49 11.01% Gary Barnidge 2016 game-by-game snap counts Randall Telfer TE 223 21.65% 0 0% 16 3.60% Randall Telfer 2016 game-by-game snap counts Seth Devalve TE 93 9.03% 0 0% 96 21.57% Seth Devalve 2016 game-by-game snap counts Connor Hamlett TE 34 3.30% 0 0% 0 0% Connor Hamlett 2016 game-by-game snap counts Austin Pasztor T 1020 99.03% 0 0% 52 11.69% Austin Pasztor 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joe Thomas T 1030 100.00% 0 0% 6 1.35% Joe Thomas 2016 game-by-game snap counts Spencer Drango T 599 58.16% 0 0% 52 11.69% Spencer Drango 2016 game-by-game snap counts Shon Coleman T 62 6.02% 0 0% 0 0% Shon Coleman 2016 game-by-game snap counts John Greco G 746 72.43% 0 0% 37 8.31% John Greco 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joel Bitonio G 331 32.14% 0 0% 18 4.04% Joel Bitonio 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jonathan Cooper G 183 17.77% 0 0% 16 3.60% Jonathan Cooper 2016 game-by-game snap counts Alvin Bailey G 373 36.21% 0 0% 45 10.11% Alvin Bailey 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cameron Erving C 700 67.96% 0 0% 28 6.29% Cameron Erving 2016 game-by-game snap counts Austin Reiter C 59 5.73% 0 0% 0 0% Austin Reiter 2016 game-by-game snap counts Anthony Fabiano C 82 7.96% 0 0% 12 2.70% Anthony Fabiano 2016 game-by-game snap counts Carl Nassib DE 0 0% 540 48.52% 77 17.30% Carl Nassib 2016 game-by-game snap counts Xavier Cooper DE 0 0% 451 40.52% 58 13.03% Xavier Cooper 2016 game-by-game snap counts Stephen Paea DE 0 0% 319 28.66% 24 5.39% Stephen Paea 2016 game-by-game snap counts John Hughes DE 0 0% 22 1.98% 0 0% John Hughes 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tyrone Holmes DE 0 0% 124 11.14% 51 11.46% Tyrone Holmes 2016 game-by-game snap counts Gabe Wright DT 0 0% 78 7.01% 12 2.70% Gabe Wright 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jamie Meder NT 0 0% 720 64.69% 135 30.34% Jamie Meder 2016 game-by-game snap counts Danny Shelton NT 0 0% 745 66.94% 7 1.57% Danny Shelton 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jamie Collins LB 0 0% 542 48.70% 6 1.35% Jamie Collins 2016 game-by-game snap counts Christian Kirksey LB 0 0% 1111 99.82% 176 39.55% Christian Kirksey 2016 game-by-game snap counts Emmanuel Ogbah LB 0 0% 849 76.28% 140 31.46% Emmanuel Ogbah 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joe Schobert LB 0 0% 246 22.10% 283 63.60% Joe Schobert 2016 game-by-game snap counts Nate Orchard LB 0 0% 88 7.91% 12 2.70% Nate Orchard 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tank Carder LB 0 0% 56 5.03% 384 86.29% Tank Carder 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cam Johnson LB 0 0% 350 31.45% 89 20.00% Cam Johnson 2016 game-by-game snap counts Dominique Alexander LB 0 0% 1 .09% 242 54.38% Dominique Alexander 2016 game-by-game snap counts Corey Lemonier LB 0 0% 119 10.69% 21 4.72% Corey Lemonier 2016 game-by-game snap counts Demario Davis LB 0 0% 787 70.71% 81 18.20% Demario Davis 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joe Haden CB 0 0% 854 76.73% 96 21.57% Joe Haden 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tramon Williams CB 0 0% 624 56.06% 23 5.17% Tramon Williams 2016 game-by-game snap counts Briean Boddy-Calhoun CB 0 0% 571 51.30% 178 40.00% Briean Boddy-Calhoun 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tracy Howard CB 0 0% 280 25.16% 187 42.02% Tracy Howard 2016 game-by-game snap counts Trey Caldwell CB 0 0% 0 0% 11 2.47% Trey Caldwell 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jamar Taylor CB 0 0% 921 82.75% 90 20.22% Jamar Taylor 2016 game-by-game snap counts Marcus Burley CB 0 0% 29 2.61% 176 39.55% Marcus Burley 2016 game-by-game snap counts Derrick Kindred SS 0 0% 537 48.25% 186 41.80% Derrick Kindred 2016 game-by-game snap counts Ibraheim Campbell SS 0 0% 418 37.56% 263 59.10% Ibraheim Campbell 2016 game-by-game snap counts Ed Reynolds FS 0 0% 505 45.37% 149 33.48% Ed Reynolds 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jordan Poyer FS 0 0% 354 31.81% 75 16.85% Jordan Poyer 2016 game-by-game snap counts Don Jones FS 1 .10% 0 0% 73 16.40% Don Jones 2016 game-by-game snap counts Charley Hughlett LS 1 .10% 0 0% 138 31.01% Charley Hughlett 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cody Parkey K 0 0% 0 0% 103 23.15% Cody Parkey 2016 game-by-game snap counts Patrick Murray K 0 0% 0 0% 13 2.92% Patrick Murray 2016 game-by-game snap counts Britton Colquitt P 1 .10% 0 0% 140 31.46% Britton Colquitt 2016 game-by-game snap counts Both Football Outsiders and Pro Football Reference think he was an LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, ny92mike said: When you label a player EDGE, is that considered 43DE and 34OLB right, it doesn't include 34DE or does it? Should not include 34 DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Whicker said: Snap Counts Positions listed reflect those shown in the gamebook Share & more Copy Link to Table to Clipboard Off. Def. ST Pos Num Pct Num Pct Num Pct Josh McCown QB 262 25.44% 0 0% 0 0% Josh McCown 2016 game-by-game snap counts Robert Griffin QB 302 29.32% 0 0% 0 0% Robert Griffin 2016 game-by-game snap counts Charlie Whitehurst QB 43 4.17% 0 0% 0 0% Charlie Whitehurst 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cody Kessler QB 349 33.88% 0 0% 0 0% Cody Kessler 2016 game-by-game snap counts Kevin Hogan QB 50 4.85% 0 0% 0 0% Kevin Hogan 2016 game-by-game snap counts Isaiah Crowell RB 568 55.15% 0 0% 1 .22% Isaiah Crowell 2016 game-by-game snap counts Dan Vitale RB 74 7.18% 0 0% 116 26.07% Dan Vitale 2016 game-by-game snap counts Duke Johnson RB 457 44.37% 0 0% 33 7.42% Duke Johnson 2016 game-by-game snap counts George Atkinson RB 22 2.14% 0 0% 230 51.69% George Atkinson 2016 game-by-game snap counts Malcolm Johnson FB 85 8.25% 0 0% 71 15.96% Malcolm Johnson 2016 game-by-game snap counts Terrelle Pryor WR 900 87.38% 1 .09% 0 0% Terrelle Pryor 2016 game-by-game snap counts Corey Coleman WR 533 51.75% 0 0% 0 0% Corey Coleman 2016 game-by-game snap counts Rashard Higgins WR 183 17.77% 0 0% 25 5.62% Rashard Higgins 2016 game-by-game snap counts Andrew Hawkins WR 647 62.82% 0 0% 12 2.70% Andrew Hawkins 2016 game-by-game snap counts Ricardo Louis WR 316 30.68% 0 0% 238 53.48% Ricardo Louis 2016 game-by-game snap counts Mario Alford WR 0 0% 0 0% 32 7.19% Mario Alford 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jordan Payton WR 32 3.11% 0 0% 11 2.47% Jordan Payton 2016 game-by-game snap counts Gary Barnidge TE 968 93.98% 0 0% 49 11.01% Gary Barnidge 2016 game-by-game snap counts Randall Telfer TE 223 21.65% 0 0% 16 3.60% Randall Telfer 2016 game-by-game snap counts Seth Devalve TE 93 9.03% 0 0% 96 21.57% Seth Devalve 2016 game-by-game snap counts Connor Hamlett TE 34 3.30% 0 0% 0 0% Connor Hamlett 2016 game-by-game snap counts Austin Pasztor T 1020 99.03% 0 0% 52 11.69% Austin Pasztor 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joe Thomas T 1030 100.00% 0 0% 6 1.35% Joe Thomas 2016 game-by-game snap counts Spencer Drango T 599 58.16% 0 0% 52 11.69% Spencer Drango 2016 game-by-game snap counts Shon Coleman T 62 6.02% 0 0% 0 0% Shon Coleman 2016 game-by-game snap counts John Greco G 746 72.43% 0 0% 37 8.31% John Greco 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joel Bitonio G 331 32.14% 0 0% 18 4.04% Joel Bitonio 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jonathan Cooper G 183 17.77% 0 0% 16 3.60% Jonathan Cooper 2016 game-by-game snap counts Alvin Bailey G 373 36.21% 0 0% 45 10.11% Alvin Bailey 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cameron Erving C 700 67.96% 0 0% 28 6.29% Cameron Erving 2016 game-by-game snap counts Austin Reiter C 59 5.73% 0 0% 0 0% Austin Reiter 2016 game-by-game snap counts Anthony Fabiano C 82 7.96% 0 0% 12 2.70% Anthony Fabiano 2016 game-by-game snap counts Carl Nassib DE 0 0% 540 48.52% 77 17.30% Carl Nassib 2016 game-by-game snap counts Xavier Cooper DE 0 0% 451 40.52% 58 13.03% Xavier Cooper 2016 game-by-game snap counts Stephen Paea DE 0 0% 319 28.66% 24 5.39% Stephen Paea 2016 game-by-game snap counts John Hughes DE 0 0% 22 1.98% 0 0% John Hughes 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tyrone Holmes DE 0 0% 124 11.14% 51 11.46% Tyrone Holmes 2016 game-by-game snap counts Gabe Wright DT 0 0% 78 7.01% 12 2.70% Gabe Wright 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jamie Meder NT 0 0% 720 64.69% 135 30.34% Jamie Meder 2016 game-by-game snap counts Danny Shelton NT 0 0% 745 66.94% 7 1.57% Danny Shelton 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jamie Collins LB 0 0% 542 48.70% 6 1.35% Jamie Collins 2016 game-by-game snap counts Christian Kirksey LB 0 0% 1111 99.82% 176 39.55% Christian Kirksey 2016 game-by-game snap counts Emmanuel Ogbah LB 0 0% 849 76.28% 140 31.46% Emmanuel Ogbah 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joe Schobert LB 0 0% 246 22.10% 283 63.60% Joe Schobert 2016 game-by-game snap counts Nate Orchard LB 0 0% 88 7.91% 12 2.70% Nate Orchard 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tank Carder LB 0 0% 56 5.03% 384 86.29% Tank Carder 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cam Johnson LB 0 0% 350 31.45% 89 20.00% Cam Johnson 2016 game-by-game snap counts Dominique Alexander LB 0 0% 1 .09% 242 54.38% Dominique Alexander 2016 game-by-game snap counts Corey Lemonier LB 0 0% 119 10.69% 21 4.72% Corey Lemonier 2016 game-by-game snap counts Demario Davis LB 0 0% 787 70.71% 81 18.20% Demario Davis 2016 game-by-game snap counts Joe Haden CB 0 0% 854 76.73% 96 21.57% Joe Haden 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tramon Williams CB 0 0% 624 56.06% 23 5.17% Tramon Williams 2016 game-by-game snap counts Briean Boddy-Calhoun CB 0 0% 571 51.30% 178 40.00% Briean Boddy-Calhoun 2016 game-by-game snap counts Tracy Howard CB 0 0% 280 25.16% 187 42.02% Tracy Howard 2016 game-by-game snap counts Trey Caldwell CB 0 0% 0 0% 11 2.47% Trey Caldwell 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jamar Taylor CB 0 0% 921 82.75% 90 20.22% Jamar Taylor 2016 game-by-game snap counts Marcus Burley CB 0 0% 29 2.61% 176 39.55% Marcus Burley 2016 game-by-game snap counts Derrick Kindred SS 0 0% 537 48.25% 186 41.80% Derrick Kindred 2016 game-by-game snap counts Ibraheim Campbell SS 0 0% 418 37.56% 263 59.10% Ibraheim Campbell 2016 game-by-game snap counts Ed Reynolds FS 0 0% 505 45.37% 149 33.48% Ed Reynolds 2016 game-by-game snap counts Jordan Poyer FS 0 0% 354 31.81% 75 16.85% Jordan Poyer 2016 game-by-game snap counts Don Jones FS 1 .10% 0 0% 73 16.40% Don Jones 2016 game-by-game snap counts Charley Hughlett LS 1 .10% 0 0% 138 31.01% Charley Hughlett 2016 game-by-game snap counts Cody Parkey K 0 0% 0 0% 103 23.15% Cody Parkey 2016 game-by-game snap counts Patrick Murray K 0 0% 0 0% 13 2.92% Patrick Murray 2016 game-by-game snap counts Britton Colquitt P 1 .10% 0 0% 140 31.46% Britton Colquitt 2016 game-by-game snap counts Both Football Outsiders and Pro Football Reference think he was an LB 275 pounds playing linebacker...no man. They've got him listed out of position I guess. I trust Ourlads and that depth chart has him playing DE his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ny92mike said: 275 pounds playing linebacker...no man. They've got him listed out of position I guess. jesus H who cares just let the guy list his players where ever he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, ny92mike said: 275 pounds playing linebacker...no man. They've got him listed out of position I guess. I trust Ourlads and that depth chart has him playing DE his entire career. Don't take my argumentativeness personally. I'm just bored. https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/187/CLE https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/188/CLE He was an OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Whicker said: Don't take my argumentativeness personally. I'm just bored. https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/187/CLE https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/188/CLE He was an OLB Browns experimenting with Ogbah at 3-4 defensive end Posted by Mike Florio on July 30, 2016, 12:43 AM EDT Getty Images As a pass rusher, Browns rookie Emmanuel Ogbah naturally would play defensive end in a 4-3 defense and linebacker in a 3-4. In Cleveland, where the 3-4 remains the base defense, Ogbah spent the offseason as a linebacker. Now that camp has arrived, the Browns have given him a try at defensive end. “We’re going to try a little bit of everything,” coach Hue Jackson told reporters on Friday. “We’re going to put our best players out there on defense. Obviously, we are going to try him there. We’re going to put him back at outside linebacker. We’re just trying to find a lot of different combinations now that Des [Bryant] is going to be down to see if we can put our best guys out there. If he gives us something there, then it’s going to help our football team. We’re going to try anything and everything that we can to give guys opportunities that showcase their abilities and talents.” Jackson confirmed that Ogbah played linebacker exclusively during OTAs, with the switch happening only in training camp. “We’re going to play him at defensive end some and take a good look at him,” Jackson said of Ogbah. “As you guys know, this time of the year is evaluation time for all of our football team. Now, you can do some of that. Move guys around and see what’s the best fit for our football team to help us win.” Jackson disputed the notion that Ogbah moved to defensive end because of perceived difficulties with dropping into coverage as a linebacker during the offseason program. Instead, Jackson pointed out that having Ogbah play multiple positions gives the defense a greater degree of flexibility on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Whicker said: Don't take my argumentativeness personally. I'm just bored. https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/187/CLE https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/188/CLE He was an OLB Damn. Even used the guys own cited depth charts against him. Also Julius Peppers played OLB for 3 years in GB at damn near 300 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Jlash said: Damn. Even used the guys own cited depth charts against him. Also Julius Peppers played OLB for 3 years in GB at damn near 300 lbs. https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/190/CLE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 It's an article stating that in training camp they were giving him a look at DE. Yet the data, even the site you mentioned, shows him playing OLB in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Honestly, I don't care where you list him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Jlash said: It's an article stating that in training camp they were giving him a look at DE. Yet the data, even the site you mentioned, shows him playing OLB in a 3-4. I just showed you where he was listed as DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 List him at CB, who cares man, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Jlash said: Honestly, I don't care where you list him. No it shouldn't matter as I see players in BDL out of position all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ny92mike said: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/archive/190/CLE Okay. I can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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