Da_Ducktator Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Post-Combine Update. I will be getting all my defensive rankings posted over the next couple weeks and an update of offensive rankings (slight changes, Combine didn't so me much I didn't already know for 95+% of the offensive guys) probably by the end of the day over at my Draft Central. So without further ado... *Kirk Cousins signing with the Vikings and A.J. McCarron signing with the Browns (on a Glennon type deal while letting a rookie sit) are the only FA assumption I'm making* Cleveland Browns - QB Josh Allen, Wyoming New York Giants - QB Josh Rosen, UCLA Indianapolis Colts - RB Saquon Barkley, Penn State Cleveland Browns (from Houston) - S/CB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama Denver Broncos - QB Sam Darnold, USC New York Jets - QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma Tampa Bay Buccaneers - EDGE Bradley Chubb, North Carolina State Chicago Bears - LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech San Francisco 49ers - CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State Oakland Raiders - SS/LB Derwin James, Florida State Miami Dolphins - OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame Cincinnati Bengals - OG Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame Washington Redskins - NT Vita Vea, Washington Green Bay Packers - LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State Arizona Cardinals - LB Roquan Smith, Georgia Baltimore Ravens - DT/DE Da'Ron Payne, Alabama Los Angeles Chargers - OT/OG Connor Williams, Texas Seattle Seahawks - OG Will Hernandez, UTEP Dallas Cowboys - DT Taven Bryan, Florida Detroit Lions - RB Derrius Guice, LSU Buffalo Bills - EDGE Harold Landry, Boston College Buffalo Bills (from Kansas City) - OT Kolton Miller, UCLA Los Angeles Rams - EDGE Josh Sweat, Florida State Carolina Panthers - WR Courtland Sutton, SMU Tennessee Titans - EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State Atlanta Falcons - CB Josh Jackson, Iowa New Orleans Saints - QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville Pittsburgh Steelers - EDGE Marcus Davenport, UTSA Jacksonville Jaguars - DT B.J. Hill, North Carolina State Minnesota Vikings - OG Austin Corbett, Nevada New England Patriots - EDGE Lorenzo Carter, Georgia Philadelphia Eagles - OT Brian O'Neill, Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phingasm 23 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Dolphins aren't going to spend a first rounder on oline. You don't have anyone getting Keenum or Bradford or giving up a first for Foles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 If the Browns draft Josh Allen, I'm going to break something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Phingasm 23 said: Dolphins aren't going to spend a first rounder on oline. You don't have anyone getting Keenum or Bradford or giving up a first for Foles? I believe those things will obviously happen, I am just not going to waste time speculating on things that don't seem anywhere near close to having a solution. Everything is pointing to Kirk going to Minnesota after the early momentum was with Denver, and McCarron is basically a lock to end up with Hue. Giving McCarron a Glennon deal and drafting a QB with huge potential to sit, similar to what the Bears did (except Allen has way more arm talent than Trubisky), seems to be the best course of action. Oh, and I think Foles ends up going to Buffalo. Either that or Buffalo sells the farm to move up for Josh Allen. One or the other is where I would strongly hedge my bet right now. Keenum is the only one of that group that would likely change a teams mind about drafting a QB, but even then, I am not sure that it would. Bradford is made of glass and will be a bridge solution, nothing more. 13 minutes ago, MWil23 said: If the Browns draft Josh Allen, I'm going to break something. Sorry, but if they sign McCarron, I feel like this is really likely. Giving Allen the chance to sit is the only chance he fulfills his potential. I know Browns fans don't want to hear it, and I get it, but it's a very real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: Sorry, but if they sign McCarron, I feel like this is really likely. Giving Allen the chance to sit is the only chance he fulfills his potential. I know Browns fans don't want to hear it, and I get it, but it's a very real possibility. It's a possibility, but my point above stands. He's JaMarcus Russell 2.0. Absolutely horrific prospect on film. He's a 4th Round project that will get drafted WAY too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooks1957 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 He's also DeShone Kizer 2.0. And we already have a year invested into DeShone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, MWil23 said: It's a possibility, but my point above stands. He's JaMarcus Russell 2.0. Absolutely horrific prospect on film. He's a 4th Round project that will get drafted WAY too high. JaMarcus failed because he was a lackadaisical piece of crap and honestly, comparing Allen to him is a bit lazy as well. I am not a fan of Allen, but the kid is tough as nails and is a competitor. He was already a guaranteed 1st rounder and decided to play in a meaningless bowl game against a nobody team just to have one last chance to play with his teammates. If Allen fails, it's not going to because he didn't put the work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, brooks1957 said: He's also DeShone Kizer 2.0. And we already have a year invested into DeShone From the old front office and there has been heavy rumors that they are working on dishing Kizer for a day three pick.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Da_Ducktator said: JaMarcus failed because he was a lackadaisical piece of crap and honestly, comparing Allen to him is a bit lazy as well. I am not a fan of Allen, but the kid is tough as nails and is a competitor. He was already a guaranteed 1st rounder and decided to play in a meaningless bowl game against a nobody team just to have one last chance to play with his teammates. If Allen fails, it's not going to because he didn't put the work on. NO, if he fails it will be because he's the most inaccurate "top tier" QB I've seen in years. Accuracy is the best indicator when evaluating QB's, aside from the outlier that is Brett Favre. Even Matt Stafford showed tremendous improvement his final two years year to year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, MWil23 said: NO, if he fails it will be because he's the most inaccurate "top tier" QB I've seen in years. Accuracy is the best indicator when evaluating QB's, aside from the outlier that is Brett Favre. Even Matt Stafford showed tremendous improvement his final two years year to year. And that's not the reason Jamarcus Russell failed so why are you comparing Allen to him? Reminds me of Kyle Boller except a big bigger and cleaner throwing motion. Allen could end up being the next Favre though. That's the kind of ridiculous tools the kid flashes and like I said, work ethic and competitive nature is in his wheelhouse as well. Allen shows some baffling decision-making at times though because he has a ton of trust in his superb arm and (awful) receivers, and though he is a great athlete, the guy struggles when forced to move (39 completion percentage against pressure, doesn't reset his feet and shoulders when on the move, relying strictly on arm to get the ball places which is what causes the erratic accuracy in those situations). Again, I am not "pro-Josh Allen." I view him similar as Kizer; he would be an amazing stash option in the 2nd round because of the ridiculous raw tools shown at the most premier position in sports. But starting him from day one is asking for trouble as he needs work. But I am not the NFL, and the NFL f'ing loves taking chances on guys like this. Allen is going high, very possibly the first pick, and the sooner people swallow that fact, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: And that's not the reason Jamarcus Russell failed so why are you comparing Allen to him? Big frame and big armed inaccurate passer who was hyped as "maybe the most physically gifted player to ever play the position" coming out. 6'6, 265, and could throw the ball close to 80 yards in the air (sounds familiar to me), making a BIG impression at the NFL combine. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: Reminds me of Kyle Boller except a big bigger and cleaner throwing motion. LOL. What a hopeful comparison. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: Allen could end up being the next Favre though. I could also win the lottery tomorrow night. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: That's the kind of ridiculous tools the kid flashes and like I said, work ethic and competitive nature is in his wheelhouse as well. Ah, FLASHES. Yes...an optimistic way of saying "inconsistent". 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: Allen shows some baffling decision-making at times though because he has a ton of trust in his superb arm He's a poor man's gunslinger, got it. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: and (awful) receivers, Didn't seem to hinder Carson Wentz at NDSU. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: and though he is a great athlete, the guy struggles when forced to move (39 completion percentage against pressure, doesn't reset his feet and shoulders when on the move, relying strictly on arm to get the ball places which is what causes the erratic accuracy in those situations). Yeah, not exactly a vote of confidence here. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: Again, I am not "pro-Josh Allen." I view him similar as Kizer; he would be an amazing stash option in the 2nd round because of the ridiculous raw tools shown at the most premier position in sports. But starting him from day one is asking for trouble as he needs work. But I am not the NFL, and the NFL f'ing loves taking chances on guys like this. And people wonder why the thought of TAKING HIM FREAKING NUMBER ONE OVERALL MAKES ME ANGRY. LOL. 3 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: Allen is going high, very possibly the first pick, and the sooner people swallow that fact, the better. Not at all. When this happens, I'm taking a hiatus from this stupid organization. It's stupid that I can sit here at home and watch a handful of college football games and draft better than them. It's hilarious and stupid at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Ducktator Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 I'm glad Browns fans are really reasonable and never immature in their arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: I'm glad Browns fans are really reasonable and never immature in their arguments. I gave you legitimate comparisons and observations. You want to ignore them and belittle them, go ahead. If you want to resort to one word labels and sarcasm, then feel free. Your own admission is that he's a 2nd round project guy that isn't ready, and you wonder why I'd be mad about drafting him #1 overall. This has nothing to do with YOUR mock draft and everything to do with what the Browns SHOULD NOT do, which is draft a project QB that struggles with accuracy and pressure #1 overall, especially when better options are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets1970 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Da_Ducktator said: I'm glad Browns fans are really reasonable and never immature in their arguments. but it sounds like you are immature lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chops013 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I'm not sure the Jags draft a DT at all, let alone in the first round. Probably the deepest position on the team with Malik Jackson, Marcell Dareus, Abry Jones, Michael Bennett, and even Calais Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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