beekay414 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I mean, Anderson Silva, Derek Brunson, Brad Tavares and Melvin Guillard are the top 4 opponents for Adesanya. Meanwhile, here's Gastelum's resume. His wins are... Jacare Souza Michael Bisping Vitor Belfort (NC because of marijuana but it was a KO for Kelvin nonetheless) Tim Kennedy Johnny Hendricks Nate Marquardt Jake Ellenberger Rick Story Uriah Hall His losses are to Chris Weidman, Neil Magny and Tyron Woodley. Nothing to sneeze at. That's one hell of a resume for a 27 year old. There's zero reason for Adesanya to be favored. None. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 10 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Gastelum over Izzy or Poirier over Max Which would be the bigger upset and do you predict either to happen? I'd say Poirier and Max, considering how much of a tear Max has been on for the longest time. However I don't see any of them as huge favorites, and none of the results would be a massive surprise for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Buckrock101 said: I'd say Poirier and Max, considering how much of a tear Max has been on for the longest time. However I don't see any of them as huge favorites, and none of the results would be a massive surprise for me. Yea i think they are both hovering around -200 so not massive upsets but i do think in general Max and Izzy are considered the favorites and seeing then lose after the run they’ve been on is unexpected. Gotta try and avoid the results until Sunday morning after i watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 7 hours ago, beekay414 said: I mean, Anderson Silva, Derek Brunson, Brad Tavares and Melvin Guillard are the top 4 opponents for Adesanya. Meanwhile, here's Gastelum's resume. His wins are... Jacare Souza Michael Bisping Vitor Belfort (NC because of marijuana but it was a KO for Kelvin nonetheless) Tim Kennedy Johnny Hendricks Nate Marquardt Jake Ellenberger Rick Story Uriah Hall His losses are to Chris Weidman, Neil Magny and Tyron Woodley. Nothing to sneeze at. That's one hell of a resume for a 27 year old. There's zero reason for Adesanya to be favored. None. I never considered looking at that but its definitely intriguing considering LIS Izzy seems to be considered the favorite and part of that just might be his charisma. Kelvin has played the underdog in so many of those wins too. His boxing is so good. I look forward to a standup war in both fights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Buckrock101 said: More chance GSP fights at 155 than 185. Think he took the 185 fight as a challenge, but it ended up giving him stomach problems from the process of putting on weight, so no chance he fights there again (if he fights again). I didnt realize i had that backwards about 170 v 185 but i cant imagine he can make 155 safely. I feel like a catchweight bought at 160/165 is the closest we can hope for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Buckrock101 said: I definitely see him fighting at heavyweight at some point. If he keeps beating everyone at LHW, that's the only test left for him. It sounds crazy to talk about him fighting at 185, but tbh he has a similar frame to Israel Adesanya, who makes 185 with seemingly no issue. So maybe. I'd still bet on him going up rather than down though. On a similar note, I was re-watching the Weidman-Jacare fight last night, and I really wish Jacare would move up to 205. There's a much easier path to the title there, and I feel like he has maybe the best chance out of anyone at 185 or 205 to beat Jon. They have similar frames but I definitely feel like Izzy is alot slimmer. Heck wasnt he weight in at like 180 for his first few UFC fights? i think a few years ago Jacare would have been the biggest threat to Jones but now his chin seems suspect. Jacare does have a strong BJJ background to counteract the GnP Bones might bring but i think he would finish him inside of 3 rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Luke Rockhold vs Jan B plus Michael Chiesa vs Diego Sanchez Both added to 239 Chiesa vs Diego feels like a step back for Chiesa is he is trying to move up in WW. Love the fight but still its strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Yea i think they are both hovering around -200 so not massive upsets but i do think in general Max and Izzy are considered the favorites and seeing then lose after the run they’ve been on is unexpected. Gotta try and avoid the results until Sunday morning after i watch. I'm obviously a huge fan of Izzy and will be rooting for him, but I don't think it will be unexpected at all if he loses. Burger King is sleeping on him for sure, but he does have a point that Kelvin has fought (and beaten) a lot of high-quality competition. I'm inclined to agree that Kelvin should be the favorite, if slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: They have similar frames but I definitely feel like Izzy is alot slimmer. Heck wasnt he weight in at like 180 for his first few UFC fights? i think a few years ago Jacare would have been the biggest threat to Jones but now his chin seems suspect. Jacare does have a strong BJJ background to counteract the GnP Bones might bring but i think he would finish him inside of 3 rounds I dunno about that, I don't see anything in his losses that shows he has a suspect chin. He got beaten by speed against Whittaker and Gastelum, not by his chin not holding up. And against Weidman he took a fair few shots and was still able to get it done in the third. plus Jones is not really the one-punch KO kind of guy. Also a couple of his best weapons (kicks and clinch) are two areas he probably wants to stay away from against Jacare, out of risk of getting taken down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Buckrock101 said: I'm obviously a huge fan of Izzy and will be rooting for him, but I don't think it will be unexpected at all if he loses. Burger King is sleeping on him for sure, but he does have a point that Kelvin has fought (and beaten) a lot of high-quality competition. I'm inclined to agree that Kelvin should be the favorite, if slightly. Kelvin should be a massive favorite tbh. Adesanya is just getting that undefeated bump. Gastelum walks through him tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Buckrock101 said: I dunno about that, I don't see anything in his losses that shows he has a suspect chin. He got beaten by speed against Whittaker and Gastelum, not by his chin not holding up. And against Weidman he took a fair few shots and was still able to get it done in the third. plus Jones is not really the one-punch KO kind of guy. Also a couple of his best weapons (kicks and clinch) are two areas he probably wants to stay away from against Jacare, out of risk of getting taken down. If he was worried about being taken down by DC i cant imagine Jacare scares him there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 UPDATE: Jonny Bones Jones STILL HAS NEVA LOST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Rogan said they went back and tested TJ's sample in his fight against Cody and it also tested positive. Edited April 12, 2019 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles101 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: Rogan said they went back and tested TJ's sample in his fight against Cody and it also tested positive. Wow. I was just warming up to the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckrock101 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Cody keeps going on and on about how unfair this thing is for him, like he didn't just get KTFO'd by Pedro Munhoz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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