TXsteeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/992122155323314177?s=20 Redskins response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, TXsteeler said: https://twitter.com/Redskins/status/992122155323314177?s=20 Redskins response. "We are immediately looking into this situation and want to express how serious we take these allegations. Based on the dialogue we've had with a number of current and former cheerleaders over the past 48 hours, we've heard very different first-hand accounts that directly contradict many of the details of the May 2 article." So: spend two days asking a few cheerleaders + found some differing accounts = "seriously taking these allegations" ? Riiiiiiiiiight ... EDIT: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Woz said: "We are immediately looking into this situation and want to express how serious we take these allegations. Based on the dialogue we've had with a number of current and former cheerleaders over the past 48 hours, we've heard very different first-hand accounts that directly contradict many of the details of the May 2 article." So: spend two days asking a few cheerleaders + found some differing accounts = "seriously taking these allegations" ? Riiiiiiiiiight ... It sounds like they're going to try to as cautiously, slowly, and discretely sweep it under the rug after people have forgotten about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Woz said: "We are immediately looking into this situation and want to express how serious we take these allegations. Based on the dialogue we've had with a number of current and former cheerleaders over the past 48 hours, we've heard very different first-hand accounts that directly contradict many of the details of the May 2 article." So: spend two days asking a few cheerleaders + found some differing accounts = "seriously taking these allegations" ? Riiiiiiiiiight ... EDIT: Thanks I was walking to class trying to figure out the tweet embed thing on my phone and it just wasn't working lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Danger said: It sounds like they're going to try to as cautiously, slowly, and discretely sweep it under the rug after people have forgotten about it. Yup .. unfortunately (for them and their crappy plan), I think the Redskins missed the 2017 recall notice on that particular PR playbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Danger said: It sounds like they're going to try to as cautiously, slowly, and discretely sweep it under the rug after people have forgotten about it. They took a day and a half to find a few cheerleaders who either weren't bothered by this stuff or were willing to take a bribe to lie. The Redskins didn't deny important and easily verifiable things like taking the women's passports, allowing top customers to watch the cheerleaders pose nude live, and allowing those same fans to handpick cheerleaders who were then asked to escort the men to a nightclub after a 14 hour workday. All of those are things that the Redskins are directly in charge of and yet they didn't deny any of them. With the boat situation they could play the plausible deniability card but not with the rest. Instead the Redskins are 100% admitting that stuff happened and trying to claim they had no idea it was wrong to do that and that some of the women might have been upset but these others weren't like that matters at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, TXsteeler said: Thanks I was walking to class trying to figure out the tweet embed thing on my phone and it just wasn't working lol. If the URL is "mobile.twitter.com/whatever" it won't autoload. You need to remove the "mobile." part of the link, cut the modified link, and re-paste it. I mentioned this to Webby yesterday when we discovered the workaround. I haven't heard back from him regarding a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Woz said: Yup .. unfortunately (for them and their crappy plan), I think the Redskins missed the 2017 recall notice on that particular PR playbook. I think Dan Snyder will end up being forced out for this. The saints cheerleaders Just offered to settle for $1 and a meeting with Goodell. If the NFL isn't run by idiots they take that deal, scapegoat the very hateable Snyder, and launch new rules that force teams to pay cheerleaders ~$55,000 a year with benefits and promise to fix the culture of sexualization and such, forcing any current cheerleaders thinking about coming out with their own stories to shut up. This will cost the average team with cheerleaders maybe $3M a year to escape what could be huge scandal,and buy much needed good PR at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Woz said: If the URL is "mobile.twitter.com/whatever" it won't autoload. You need to remove the "mobile." part of the link, cut the modified link, and re-paste it. I mentioned this to Webby yesterday when we discovered the workaround. I haven't heard back from him regarding a fix. Yeah I read about that and took it out but it still posted like that. Do you have to take it out before you copy and paste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Woz said: "We are immediately looking into this situation and want to express how serious we take these allegations. Based on the dialogue we've had with a number of current and former cheerleaders over the past 48 hours, we've heard very different first-hand accounts that directly contradict many of the details of the May 2 article." How do you have to investigate a situation you created? Bruce Allen is what, investigating himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, TXsteeler said: Yeah I read about that and took it out but it still posted like that. Do you have to take it out before you copy and paste? Yes. Or you can paste it into the forums, remove the mobile., cut the link again, and re-paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, MKnight82 said: How do you have to investigate a situation you created? Bruce Allen is what, investigating himself? The "you seriously want to investigate for any misdeads and want to make sure they never happen again" method: Hire an outside auditing firm. Give them free reign to talk to any and all. Pledge to not interfere and to listen to their suggestions. Actually follow step #3. Implement their suggestions, including firing people if necessary. Release the report and what you did. The "you want to look like you're doing something but really it's just a PR move" method (i.e. the Silicon Valley Shuffle): Follow section one, but skip steps 4, 5 and 6. Tell everyone that it will never happen again. Really. The "in house, 'we really care' investigation" method (what they're apparently trying): Put out a PR statement that you are investigating the claims. In the same statement, dispute some of the facts at hand. Give no evidence that you've done anything or what the contradictory facts are. Pray it disappears with the next news cycle / hope no further reports come out. The "Moron" method: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, TXsteeler said: If the NFL isn't run by idiots they take that deal, scapegoat the very hateable Snyder, and launch new rules that force teams to pay cheerleaders ~$55,000 a year with benefits and promise to fix the culture of sexualization and such, forcing any current cheerleaders thinking about coming out with their own stories to shut up. This will cost the average team with cheerleaders maybe $3M a year to escape what could be huge scandal,and buy much needed good PR at the same time. That's a good deal honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, Woz said: The "you seriously want to investigate for any misdeads and want to make sure they never happen again" method: Hire an outside auditing firm. Give them free reign to talk to any and all. Pledge to not interfere and to listen to their suggestions. Actually follow step #3. Implement their suggestions, including firing people if necessary. Release the report and what you did. An example that (painfully) comes to mind is the Freeh report after the Sandusky scandal at Penn State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Danger said: An example that (painfully) comes to mind is the Freeh report after the Sandusky scandal at Penn State. It's that "painfully" part that makes it so rare, and why it is apparent when an organization is serious or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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