LionsFan01 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 22 hours ago, showtime said: IMO, I just don't care about 'competitive games' that are played with a controller unless it's a fighting game. Most competitive and esport games on PC because the players are just vastly superior due to the hardware they're using. I'm sure CoD esports does very well because the game is popular, but it's very meh to me. I loved Ground War in MW2 and BO1. I wouldn't count on Ground War here because this game doesn't seem like it would do a 9v9 mode. CoD esports is dwarfed in comparison to the PC titles. Just look at the difference in prize pools. Orgs like Echo Fox are dropping their CoD teams because it just doesn't make sense financially to keep one, especially with the move to 5v5. I wouldn't say it's struggling, but Activision is doing everything it can to get more casual fans interested with franchising happening in the very near future. Which I understand, I just don't think making both competitive and public matches 5v5 is going to move that needle at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 51 minutes ago, LionsFan01 said: CoD esports is dwarfed in comparison to the PC titles. Just look at the difference in prize pools. Orgs like Echo Fox are dropping their CoD teams because it just doesn't make sense financially to keep one, especially with the move to 5v5. I wouldn't say it's struggling, but Activision is doing everything it can to get more casual fans interested with franchising happening in the very near future. Which I understand, I just don't think making both competitive and public matches 5v5 is going to move that needle at all. Best way to have handled this would have been keep the game the exact same as it's always been. 6v6 and Ground War. Make a ranked game mode with matchmaking that is 5v5 for people who are really competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Gung Ho is an absolute crutch perk. I used my 3rd permanent unlock token on it even though it is unlocked around level ~25. I see a ton of people running Lightweight which is basically useless. Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: Gung Ho is an absolute crutch perk. I used my 3rd permanent unlock token on it even though it is unlocked around level ~25. I see a ton of people running Lightweight which is basically useless. Makes no sense. I've been using cold blooded, but I'll try gung ho out next time. Have you seen the vids of people using the MOZU pistol with the operator perk which is a 1 shot kill to the head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, JBURGE said: Have you seen the vids of people using the MOZU pistol with the operator perk which is a 1 shot kill to the head? Yeah, they had that in the beta too, sort of ridiculous for PC players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers0909 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 PS4 guys, what's the Black Market/Battle Pass thing been like so far? What are the unlocks like? The default skins that you can use on Specialists are pretty lackluster so just wondering if the item shop solves that. Same for gun camos, are those unlockable as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, flyers0909 said: PS4 guys, what's the Black Market/Battle Pass thing been like so far? What are the unlocks like? The default skins that you can use on Specialists are pretty lackluster so just wondering if the item shop solves that. Same for gun camos, are those unlockable as well? Zero good specialist outfits at this point, and you'll need to play for like 100+ hours to get them anyway. Gun camos are unlockable via headshots and challenges like every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers0909 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: Zero good specialist outfits at this point, and you'll need to play for like 100+ hours to get them anyway. Gun camos are unlockable via headshots and challenges like every game. So there's no camos outside the challenge ones? Those headshot/challenges have been in every COD game, I thought there'd at least be something like there was in BO3 except instead of supply drops they were unlock able in the tiers. That's a shame. So what the heck are the rewards for all the 200 tiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyers0909 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Heimdallr said: Zero good specialist outfits at this point, and you'll need to play for like 100+ hours to get them anyway. Gun camos are unlockable via headshots and challenges like every game. I just saw that a patch today was supposed to address the tier progression again so hopefully it's a bit more reasonable now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I played like 5 games on the PS4. I forgot about the market stuff. Maybe I'll do it on Xbox instead. I want to play PS4 more, but the controller is just trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 @JBURGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I'm actually really liking Hardcore in this game. Especially in Control it plays really well. FFA is sort of a campy mess, but Control is really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I been playing control and domination. I mainly like objective game modes, but the problem is this game is inherently not a team based game. Half the games I'm the only one trying to cap the B flag while people just sit on the outside camping and going for killstreaks. Then every so often you get that game of domination or control where everyone on both teams is really trying to win the game and the game is really fun. I've been getting better games on the PS4 from my experience. Not really that big of a sample size, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, showtime said: I been playing control and domination. I mainly like objective game modes, but the problem is this game is inherently not a team based game. Half the games I'm the only one trying to cap the B flag while people just sit on the outside camping and going for killstreaks. Then every so often you get that game of domination or control where everyone on both teams is really trying to win the game and the game is really fun. I've been getting better games on the PS4 from my experience. Not really that big of a sample size, though. In BO3 I played over 2000 games of Domination, and for a long time I always went super hard to play the objective and keep the B flag, and my W/L was about 1.3. Then I decided to stop doing that and just focus on getting streaks, and my W/L went up close to 2.0 (as a solo player). Even if you are a really good player there is only so much you can do on your own to keep objectives, but a full set of high streaks can dominate the game. But yeah, for the average potato, it is better to just run at the objective because they won't be getting streaks anyway. Might as well try to disrupt the objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 The spawns in TDM are crazy. I heard its even worse in Dom. I got killed trying to leave my spawn like 3 times in a row on Icebreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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