August4th Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 imagine going back to 2011 to tell NFL fans that A-rod packers would not make it back to the SB after beating us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, August4th said: imagine going back to 2011 to tell NFL fans that A-rod packers would not make it back to the SB after beating us. And that he won 4 MVPs and went to 4 NFC conference games in that time too. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFF Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: And that he won 4 MVPs and went to 4 NFC conference games in that time too. Crazy. That’s why I don’t give the Rams crap for going all in to win a SB…yea you have to embrace cap hell and sucking but you got ring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: And that he won 4 MVPs and went to 4 NFC conference games in that time too. Crazy. niners and Eagles were able to win the conf more times, despite going through multiple rebuilds in that time. I know it's hard to make the SB, but GB had two top 10 all-time quarterbacks in a conf that did not have a Manning, Brady and Mahomes or a consistent contender like a Ravens/Steelers. To only have 3 superbowl appearances in that span(nearly 30 yrs) has to be disappointing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, AFF said: That’s why I don’t give the Rams crap for going all in to win a SB…yea you have to embrace cap hell and sucking but you got ring. I a firm believer in going for it whenever the window comes. But I also think you should build a solid base before you do it. I think there is a big difference between the Rams going for it and the Eagles. Rams had no base, they are going to hurt for a while now. The Eagles had a nice base. It's going to hurt, but it's likely short term. We have seen them turn over and start back up quickly. The Rams had been in like an 18 year rut before this stint and I think they might go right back. But then there is a team like the Packers who are anti-go for it but always had a strong base and were always in the conversation. I do think this is a fun debate to have though. Last 12 years for those three teams: - 9 playoff appearances, 4 conference championship games, 7 playoff wins, zero super bowls - 4 playoff appearances, 2 conference championship games, 7 playoff wins, 1 super bowl - 6 playoff appearances, 2 conference championships games, 6 playoff wins, 1 super bowl Kinda nuts to me that the Packers NEVER made it a super bowl with those results in the last 12 years, but the Eagles and the Rams made it to multiple. What a difference 13 years instead of 12 does though.... - 10 playoff appearances, 5 conference championship games, 11 playoff wins, 1 super bowl - 4 playoff appearances, 2 conference championship games, 7 playoff wins, 1 super bowl - 7 playoff appearances, 2 conference championships games, 6 playoff wins, 1 super bowl Edited March 15, 2023 by Dcash4 Forgot to change the 13th year super bowl for the pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 And for fun, here is a look at the Steelers in the 12/13 year view: 12 years: - 7 playoff appearances, 1 conference championship games, 3 playoff wins, 0 super bowls 13 years: - 8 playoff appearances, 2 conference championship games, 5 playoff wins, 1 super bowl Biggest difference is that they have the ability to get to the playoffs at a high rate, they just don't win when they do as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Anybody think the Saints would trade 29&40 for 17? Is that a stretch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: Anybody think the Saints would trade 29&40 for 17? Is that a stretch? I don’t think it’s a stretch, and I think they would do it if certain guys are there, but I rather try to take something lesser than 40 and a future pick. Edited March 19, 2023 by warfelg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, warfelg said: I don’t think it’s a stretch, and I think they would do it if certain guys are there, but I rather try to take something lesser than 40 and a future pick. What are you proposing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, MOSteelers56 said: What are you proposing? 29, 115, 2024 2nd. That’s the right points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFF Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, warfelg said: 29, 115, 2024 2nd. That’s the right points. IIRC Saints have a propensity to deal future draft picks in deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, warfelg said: 29, 115, 2024 2nd. That’s the right points. I think I’d rather have the short term assets. Just personally, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, AFF said: IIRC Saints have a propensity to deal future draft picks in deals. They do. 2 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: I think I’d rather have the short term assets. Just personally, though. I’m a huge fan of continually rolling over an extra day 1-2 picks. Roseman does that and likely something Weidl would push for to have the flexibility to move about the draft without losing too many picks. That was one of my big issues with Colbert at times. He give away future late picks but never did much to add to what he was giving way. I think that’s one thing Khan/Weidl would look to do so with this spending they can use picks to supplement depth better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Hopefully they are smart and trade him to an NFC team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said: Hopefully they are smart and trade him to an NFC team Rumor at owners meeting is no one wants to pay the 2 1sts price, and if he signs the tender they could negotiate a price that’s a little easier to take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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