Karnage84 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, detroitroar said: He better be Gronk-like This just seems like a really lazy pick. Several of the best TE's in the league were picked outside of the 1st round. We have more pressing needs. Maybe we trade down and take the TE or we trade back up into the 1st... I would rather we did neither... but no way we take that guy at #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 If we pick a TE at 8, I will seriously quit being a fan. I have already lost the burning fire of fandom that gave me the desire to learn about the draft pool, research free agents etc for so many years. If they do that, I will probably not watch a game next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions017 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 This is a good TE class. It’s a need, but they don’t contribute immediately and we can get a good one in the second or third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lions017 said: This is a good TE class. It’s a need, but they don’t contribute immediately and we can get a good one in the second or third round. I agree, but TE just doesn't have the impact that other positions have on winning IMO. A solid TE can be great in the right system. I am all for drafting 1 or 2 this year, but not in the 1st and probably not the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Rockcity2 said: There are mocks out there having us take a TE at 8.... Really... thoughts? It’s a very Lion thing to do. If the Lions do that it would be the end for me. I’m on the cusp of being a free agent anywa6 so that would hasten the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 18 hours ago, Lions017 said: This is a good TE class. It’s a need, but they don’t contribute immediately and we can get a good one in the second or third round. Exactly - it's a good class but it's not the most pressing need. TE's tend to need 2-3 years to be impactful. Why pass over immediate impact players at a position of need (DL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDOG_det Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I agree that taking a TE that early would kinda suck... but... I could totally see it happening. They already tried to trade this 1st rounder for Gronk last year, so clearly they are at least open to adding a high-level TE. Hockenson and Fant do look like legitimately great prospects, but the TE position really isn't worth such a high pick if you're aren't getting a hall of fame caliber player. The TE position is really weak in free agency this year, so it's almost a guarantee that the Lions will draft a TE at some point, the real questions are when will they pull the trigger and will they draft more than one? Under Bob Quinn, round 1 and round 2 have been where they've targeted positions that need an instant impact. Round 3 has been more of an intended year 2 impact/potential impact at the end of year 1. Round 4 they targeted role players (and seemingly got lucky with Da'shawn Hand). Round 5 and later they target depth or special teams. In Darrell Bevells offense they might value having two starting level tight ends, so even if they do get one of the few decent free agent tight ends they still might take someone like Hockenson or Fant early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 11 hours ago, IDOG_det said: I agree that taking a TE that early would kinda suck... but... I could totally see it happening. They already tried to trade this 1st rounder for Gronk last year, so clearly they are at least open to adding a high-level TE. Hockenson and Fant do look like legitimately great prospects, but the TE position really isn't worth such a high pick if you're aren't getting a hall of fame caliber player. The TE position is really weak in free agency this year, so it's almost a guarantee that the Lions will draft a TE at some point, the real questions are when will they pull the trigger and will they draft more than one? Under Bob Quinn, round 1 and round 2 have been where they've targeted positions that need an instant impact. Round 3 has been more of an intended year 2 impact/potential impact at the end of year 1. Round 4 they targeted role players (and seemingly got lucky with Da'shawn Hand). Round 5 and later they target depth or special teams. In Darrell Bevells offense they might value having two starting level tight ends, so even if they do get one of the few decent free agent tight ends they still might take someone like Hockenson or Fant early on. I'm of the belief that we would look at drafting a TE in Round 2 and likely bring in another guy in rounds 5-7. It's possible that they bring Luke back since he's familiar with Bevell's system (and honestly, I'd love to see the local kid do well). Toilolo came around towards the end of the year as well. I feel like they're going to target the position in multiple ways in an attempt to try and fix it. This is especially the case as I've read that Bevell does like to incorporate the TE>WR3 and is more likely to run two TE sets often. If the QB's start to fall a bit, we could trade down and take a guy like Fant in the middle of the 1st if they truly feel he is the guy to do it. If teams are overvaluing the QB's, then I'd prefer that we stay put at 8 and draft a stud defensive lineman or Devin White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 It would be typical Lions to draft a TE in the first. Hopefully they don’t. Sitting at 8 they should be able to draft a player that can make an immediate impact on defence. I would be upset if the draft a TE before round three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortexLion Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 They will not abandon the DL in the first round or possibly LB but I can't see a TE in the first round that would just be stupid AF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 25/01/2019 at 9:00 PM, MortexLion said: They will not abandon the DL in the first round or possibly LB but I can't see a TE in the first round that would just be stupid AF! This is the Lions - so never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcity2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 These chicks these days can get away with murder.. makes me ill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rockcity2 said: These chicks these days can get away with murder.. makes me ill.. Context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimbaWho Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 It's not real. They're not really going to take a TE. I posted it as a joke but honestly. They won't take one, there are other better players available at 8 that won't be TE's. Just mock dummies treating the Lions like well... Dummies. 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds? Those are up for grabs at alot of positions but I'll ALMOST bet 1,000$ a TE isn't taken at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SimbaWho said: It's not real. They're not really going to take a TE. I posted it as a joke but honestly. They won't take one, there are other better players available at 8 that won't be TE's. Just mock dummies treating the Lions like well... Dummies. 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds? Those are up for grabs at alot of positions but I'll ALMOST bet 1,000$ a TE isn't taken at 8. I'd bet money that we'll be taking a TE in rounds 2-3. Whether in our original selection or in a trade up/trade down scenario. We have too much of a need at the position to not address it somewhat early on (but sure as heck not top 10 early). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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