bcb1213 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: I agree with that as well honestly. I mean if you really think about the guys even in recent drafts that have been taken that are truly the top quarterbacks and I'm not talking about guys they were necessarily taken in the first round of the guys that you see develop and play in the NFL they were really the best quarterbacks when you go back and look at who they played with I feel like and maybe I'm wrong here because I'm not cross checking this statement at the moment but I feel like when you look at the wide receivers that they might have played with that are in the NFL did not necessarily at the top of the list of success There's exceptions to every rule of course Stafford Julio, I think?, comes to mind early 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, MD4L said: Using that logic is there any school that is active with multiple quality QBs? Cal is the first program that comes to mind. You're not wrong and yeah Cal definitely comes to mind. I mean let's be honest a lot of it perhaps comes down to ability to learn and intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, wwhickok said: I think part of the reason that we don't see more success out of Alabama quarterbacks is because really it's not what their offense is about. They have a good passing game but they are all run first team. So is Clemson. It's only recently that the shotgun spread system QBs have taken off in the NFL. Just now, wwhickok said: I agree with that as well honestly. I mean if you really think about the guys even in recent drafts that have been taken that are truly the top quarterbacks and I'm not talking about guys they were necessarily taken in the first round of the guys that you see develop and play in the NFL they were really the best quarterbacks when you go back and look at who they played with I feel like and maybe I'm wrong here because I'm not cross checking this statement at the moment but I feel like when you look at the wide receivers that they might have played with that are in the NFL did not necessarily at the top of the list of success I disagree. Look at the level of talent they had in college, not just WR, but OL/TE and RB. Wentz had a championship team. Luck had a ton of talent. Watson did. Baker did. I think this point holds better with QBs of the Rivers, Ryan, Rodgers, Brees era than today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, Ragnarok said: So is Clemson. It's only recently that the shotgun spread system QBs have taken off in the NFL. I disagree. Look at the level of talent they had in college, not just WR, but OL/TE and RB. Wentz had a championship team. Luck had a ton of talent. Watson did. Baker did. I think this point holds better with QBs of the Rivers, Ryan, Rodgers, Brees era than today. Yeah like I said I wasn't really cross-checking so I wasn't sure how I could that statement was he just meant to lie seemed like that but I agree if you go back to that previous era what I said was much more true I agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ragnarok said: So is Clemson. It's only recently that the shotgun spread system QBs have taken off in the NFL. I disagree. Look at the level of talent they had in college, not just WR, but OL/TE and RB. Wentz had a championship team. Luck had a ton of talent. Watson did. Baker did. I think this point holds better with QBs of the Rivers, Ryan, Rodgers, Brees era than today. How many nfl players did Wentz have. Cmon man We'll see with baker and Watson down the road Luck had tight ends? No wr I recall off hand Edited April 11, 2019 by bcb1213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, bcb1213 said: How many nfl players did Wentz have. Cmon man He did have Joe Haeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Honestly furthermore to sort of step away from quarterback for a second if you really think about it running back is really become even more than it ever has been before I really hit or miss position because the NFL and even call it football has really evolved into a heavy pass offense sport that I feel like there's not as much development when it comes to running backs and it might not even be so much not enough development but maybe not enough opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Jason White sure made Baker undraftable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, wwhickok said: Yeah like I said I wasn't really cross-checking so I wasn't sure how I could that statement was he just meant to lie seemed like that but I agree if you go back to that previous era what I said was much more true I agree with that Fair enough. Just now, bcb1213 said: How many nfl players did Wentz have. Cmon man He played on a two-time championship team in division 2. The talent around him was better than the guys they were playing. And even if you remove him, the trend is going the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 @RuskieTitan you’re otc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: Kellen Clemens He was Boise State Nevermind, that was Kellen Moore. Don't mind me. Edited April 11, 2019 by Hockey5djh Ian Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, MD4L said: @RuskieTitan you’re otc. Glad you took JoeJuan he was number one on my board but I already took 3 corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Hockey5djh said: He was Boise State You're thinking of Kellen Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Just now, Counselor said: Glad you took JoeJuan he was number one on my board but I already took 3 corners Love tall CBs and his value made it easier to decide. Was tops on my board too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Fair enough. He played on a two-time championship team in division 2. The talent around him was better than the guys they were playing. And even if you remove him, the trend is going the other way. I think you're giving too much credit early Maybe Watson works with Mike Williams. Time will tell Baker had dede Westbrook, been OK so far and Hollywood... Who knows Luck had Colby Fleener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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