TheKillerNacho Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, pwny said: So I can play a guy all of S14, all of S15, and 7 games of S16 and he costs one tag? Yes, just as you could play someone you drafted in S16 for 7 games and they only cost one tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: Yes, just as you could play someone you drafted in S16 for 7 games and they only cost one tag. Yeah, that's someone who never accrued starter status. Not someone who was a starter for two full seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, pwny said: Yeah, that's someone who never accrued starter status. Not someone who was a starter for two full seasons. The point of making rookies 1 tag in the first place was to remove the opportunity cost of playing them instead of the "draft and stash for two seasons" method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, El ramster said: offer bby.. Shame you traded brady. Who needs that scrub that can’t even beat a backup QB or Eli Manning in a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Watson was a starting QB. He never hit the draft pool afterwards. He shouldn't cost less than the starting rate. Tammy had to spend 3 tags on Osemele for 4 seasons despite playing him at a 2 position spot, but a QB can accrue starter years and never cost starting tags? That's bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Anyway I'm going to sort this all out tomorrow morning. Thanks for summing it up pwny but I think I already processed part of that and now I'm too tired to comb through it. I pray things don't get more complicated haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, pwny said: Watson was a starting QB. He never hit the draft pool afterwards. He shouldn't cost less than the starting rate. Tammy had to spend 3 tags on Osemele for 4 seasons despite playing him at a 2 position spot, but a QB can accrue starter years and never cost starting tags? That's bogus. Again, all rookies can. That's the whole point of them costing 1 tag: to remove the opportunity cost of fielding them. In short, rookie seasons don't count towards accrued seasons. It's a calculated perk to make rookies more valuable in the Summer draft and to encourage owners to play more rookies. No one would want to field rookies if it meant that they needed to field full price for them afterwards. Watson never completed a season as a non-rookie starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, pwny said: Watson was a starting QB. He never hit the draft pool afterwards. He shouldn't cost less than the starting rate. Tammy had to spend 3 tags on Osemele for 4 seasons despite playing him at a 2 position spot, but a QB can accrue starter years and never cost starting tags? That's bogus. The rule is that a player can't be kept for less than what they were previously kept for unless they hit the draft. That's it. Osemele was kept for three tags before moving to guard. So he couldn't be kept for less than three tags unless he hit the draft. Same with JJ Watt and the 4/3 DE, 3/4 DE conundrum he's in now. Watson has never been kept for more than one tag. And he hasn't played enough games in a season to cost more than one tag. So he can continue to be kept for one tag. Forever if he plays seven games a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Again, all rookies can. That's the whole point of them costing 1 tag: to remove the opportunity cost of fielding them. In short, rookie seasons don't count towards accrued seasons. It's a calculated perk to make rookies more valuable in the Summer draft and to encourage owners to play more rookies. No one would want to field rookies if it meant that they needed to field full price for them afterwards. Then costing one tag to begin with is the opportunity cost. They shouldn't be able to cost less than other starters after being a full time starter. They get the benefit for the two times they can cost one tag no matter what. There shouldn't be extra crap after that. 4 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Watson has never been kept for more than one tag. And he hasn't played enough games in a season to cost more than one tag. So he can continue to be kept for one tag. Forever if he plays seven games a season. And I'm specifically arguing that by playing a 16 game season, there's no logical reason that it shouldn't count as his accrued season. I get that Nacho is saying it doesn't count. I'm saying it's stupid to not have it count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Y'all shouldn't have voted for it. 🤷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 last min.. if anyone wants my guys before we go live lmk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Y'all shouldn't have voted for it. 🤷 This isn’t anything a part of what I was told. Rookies costing one tag is fine by me. All this other garbage never would have gotten my vote. All we were ever told was that rookies cost one tag, and that it was limited along with the part time starters to two per team combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Also, why does he get two “non-accrued because they were rookies” and also one rookie? I thought the limit was two? Or is this some other trash loophole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, pwny said: Also, why does he get two “non-accrued because they were rookies” and also one rookie? I thought the limit was two? Or is this some other trash loophole? He has played zero games in the NSFL since his rookie NFL season. He didn't play in S15 or S16. So he's a practice squad player more than he is a rookie being kept for one tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Again, all rookies can. That's the whole point of them costing 1 tag: to remove the opportunity cost of fielding them. In short, rookie seasons don't count towards accrued seasons. It's a calculated perk to make rookies more valuable in the Summer draft and to encourage owners to play more rookies. No one would want to field rookies if it meant that they needed to field full price for them afterwards. Watson never completed a season as a non-rookie starter. I think I get it now. Question: Could, in theory, someone draft a rookie QB, start all 16 games that same season, then the following year (after his rookie season), start both seasons 16 games, and still be 1 tag? Or would the second season require 7 starts or less to preserve the 1 tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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