Jroc04 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, NoFlyZone said: Itβs a simple matter of it not being all or nothing. Itβs a simple matter of their being levels to things. Itβs not a matter of you either being the very best team in your conference or youβre chopped liver. And again, youβre saying these things and the playoffs havenβt even started yet.Β I made the example before, but what about Aaron Rodgers and those strong GB teams he had for years and years? That team never got back to the SB after 2010. Weβre talking a decade+ of not quite being the best team in their conference.. and yet no one acted like Rodgers was an overrated bum on an overrated team. We were able to acknowledge his success despite the fact that he spent a decade+ not achieving what the Cowboys have been trying to achieve as well. I donβt think we treat any team like we treat the Cowboys.. and it has a lot to do with fans wanting them to be a miserable franchise because they get off on that perceived misery. Meh. Rodgers only getting one is a disgrace to the franchise more to Rodgers I think. Still tho, massive underachievement. Β I donβt know who else would agree with you.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downundermike Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 18 hours ago, NoFlyZone said: But what are you really talking about here? That they just barely lost to a SB caliber team at their place? Β On 12/24/2023 at 5:43 PM, downundermike said: Dallas, the only team with a winning record that the Dolphins can beat Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jroc04 said: Meh. Rodgers only getting one is a disgrace to the franchise more to Rodgers I think. Still tho, massive underachievement. Β I donβt know who else would agree with you.Β Underachieving? Maybe. The point though is that itβs silly to have an all or nothing approach to it. It shouldnβt be that either youβre the best or youβre a joke. Obviously the past two seasons in a row of falling short has been disappointing, but only one team from each conference makes it. Iβm not going to act like the Cowboys were a disappointing joke just because they werenβt the absolute very best.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, downundermike said: Β Β The Dolphins could very well find themselves in the Superbowl. Acting like either team is fraudulent is irrational. Literally every team in the league has had their moments of looking very mortal this year.. picking and choosing which moments/ outcomes to focus on is just a matter of cherry picking.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) Dallas can't beat good teams, just in case anyone was wondering. They also lost to Arizona with a backup QB. Edited December 26, 2023 by Jeezla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jroc04 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: Underachieving? Maybe. The point though is that itβs silly to have an all or nothing approach to it. It shouldnβt be that either youβre the best or youβre a joke. Obviously the past two seasons in a row of falling short has been disappointing, but only one team from each conference makes it. Iβm not going to act like the Cowboys were a disappointing joke just because they werenβt the absolute very best.Β Except winning SBs is the only thing that matters in this sport. Just because you like to set your own standards ofβ¦..whatever the hell you consider successβ¦..is null and void. Itβs not how EVERYONE else looks at it.Β Β And it all depends on each teams situation. Det losing a round into the playoffs would still be success. Theyβre a team on the rise. Β Dal losing another divisional round is continuing the joke. Most good teams, and teams that have been good for a few years, itβs all or nothing. Usually teams successes come in waves. Dalβs wave will go back out to sea eventually. They need a SB to define themselves. Dak and co. consistently fumbling opportunities is not only disappointing, itβs become expected.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downundermike Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Dallas can't beat good teams, just in case anyone was wondering. They also lost to Arizona with a backup QB. Wasn't that backup QB traded then benched for Nick Mullens ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folesadelphia Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, downundermike said: Wasn't that backup QB traded then benched for Nick Mullens ?? You know, now that you mention it. Dallas did lose to the God awful Cardinals with a backup QB who was ultimately traded form the Cardinals and then relegated to the bench in favor of Nick Mullens.Β 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Who wants to put money on whether nfz is here in a few weeks declaring the season a success when the Cowboys are ultimately bounced in the 1st or 2nd Rd again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: Dallas can't beat good teams, just in case anyone was wondering. They also lost to Arizona with a backup QB. Itβs amusing that you only show up once your team barely survives a down and out Giants team to avoid losing 4 in a row. Every team has had adversity this season.. youβre trolling at best.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, CasperX22 said: Who wants to put money on whether nfz is here in a few weeks declaring the season a success when the Cowboys are ultimately bounced in the 1st or 2nd Rd again? Itβs called being a rational fan. You wouldnβt understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 26 minutes ago, Folesadelphia said: You know, now that you mention it. Dallas did lose to the God awful Cardinals with a backup QB who was ultimately traded form the Cardinals and then relegated to the bench in favor of Nick Mullens.Β Like I said to someone else.. genuinely amusing that you want to show up to troll only when your team only narrowly avoids losing their 4th game in a row to a down and out Giants team. Every team has had their moments of adversity this season. Do I need to remind you of how it went for your team last time they were on SNF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFlyZone Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jroc04 said: Except winning SBs is the only thing that matters in this sport. Just because you like to set your own standards ofβ¦..whatever the hell you consider successβ¦..is null and void. Itβs not how EVERYONE else looks at it.Β Β And it all depends on each teams situation. Det losing a round into the playoffs would still be success. Theyβre a team on the rise. Β Dal losing another divisional round is continuing the joke. Most good teams, and teams that have been good for a few years, itβs all or nothing. Usually teams successes come in waves. Dalβs wave will go back out to sea eventually. They need a SB to define themselves. Dak and co. consistently fumbling opportunities is not only disappointing, itβs become expected.Β Iβm not sure I put a lot of value on a subjective opinion of βwhat everyone else thinksβ. Especially when extremely obvious double standards exist, and no other team faces the same level of scrutiny. It goes without saying that winning the SB is the end goal for every team. That doesnβt mean all 31 teams that didnβt win the SB are all equally stupid losers that had equal seasons. No one else gets clowned like Dallas if they donβt make it. I prefer to have rational opinions instead of following a dumb cliche. Iβm not sure if you know much about odds, but any given team is not statistically likely to win the SB. You could bet against any team and it wouldnβt exactly be outrageous. Saying that itβs expected to see any given team fall short isnβt really saying much. Just because they havenβt been good enough to be the best in their conference that doesnβt mean they should be seen as failures to drag and clown - seriously, we donβt do this to anyone else. And again, weβre having this conversation and this yearβs playoffs havenβt even started. Can we not even reserve judgment until then? Edited December 26, 2023 by NoFlyZone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: Itβs amusing that you only show up once your team barely survives a down and out Giants team to avoid losing 4 in a row. Every team has had adversity this season.. youβre trolling at best.Β It's amusing you think Dallas has a chance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folesadelphia Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, NoFlyZone said: Like I said to someone else.. genuinely amusing that you want to show up to troll only when your team only narrowly avoids losing their 4th game in a row to a down and out Giants team. Every team has had their moments of adversity this season. Do I need to remind you of how it went for your team last time they were on SNF? No, you see how I didn't say the Eagles are good or pound my chest in any capacity. I can say Dallas sucks while also saying the Eagles suck. That's crazy, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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