Matts4313 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Jroc04 said: Get ‘em Dak! 25 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: It's clear that was always the plan. I hope Dak holds out Zeke style instead of being the good little soldier he was last year throughout camp. He's seen where that actually got him a year later. [ ] no doubt [x] doubt The owners son said they were uber close. Maybe I am living in lala land, but it seems unlikely. Unless Dak is waiting on Mahommes.... Which will be really bad for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 17 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: I mean you think Dak is good do that really is just proving his point all over again I feel like you are being dismissive of my football IQ. Ive worked with everything from the HC of the Cowboys to mediocre college athletes. One of my WRs just got a full ride to purdue. I am not saying I am smarter than you all... But I am smarter than you all (im joking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDTimes Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Jroc04 said: Get ‘em Dak! There's no way Dak is signing and playing under a franchise tag. He'd be leaving at least $8M on the table by doing so and, as has been mentioned, he just needs to look at what Jones did to pacify Elliott last season as a reference. Jerry's problem is, the last few players he paid -- Elliott, Lawrence, Jaylon Smith -- all played last season like they got fat after a big paycheck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I feel like you are being dismissive of my football IQ. Ive worked with everything from the HC of the Cowboys to mediocre college athletes. One of my WRs just got a full ride to purdue. I am not saying I am smarter than you all... But I am smarter than you all (im joking) So on an intelligence scale, one might rate you a.......... a............ a......... (wait for it) (wait for it) a Texas 9??????????????????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 22 hours ago, Matts4313 said: [ ] no doubt [x] doubt The owners son said they were uber close. Maybe I am living in lala land, but it seems unlikely. Unless Dak is waiting on Mahommes.... Which will be really bad for us. I thought the Chiefs said it was unlikely Mahomes get extended this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 That weird moment when you feel like @Matts4313 is absolutely correct about something and somebody else is an idiot. You're absolutely correct about that thread you made in NFL Gen a couple hours ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Like, Outpost can't see the forest through the trees. Quote So the answer is to either have Andy Dalton, or re-draft your QB every 5 years? Head bending stuff. theJ spitting facts. Instead of paying Mahomes, the Chiefs should just move on from him and draft another rookie after next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, Danger said: Like, Outpost can't see the forest through the trees. theJ spitting facts. Instead of paying Mahomes, the Chiefs should just move on from him and draft another rookie after next season? There is no middle market for QB’s. Either he is your guy and you pay him a ridiculous amount or he is not and you move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: There is no middle market for QB’s. Either he is your guy and you pay him a ridiculous amount or he is not and you move on. I agree with this in premise, but I do think the "bandaid" QB exist. The Alex Smith and Nick Foles guys. You sign them while you are looking for someone better. Those guys normally get mid-level money. I think if Brady walks, he will be a bandaid. Probably Bridgewater, Tanny/Mariota, Dalton and Winston as well if they hit the market. Edited February 4, 2020 by Matts4313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: I agree with this in premise, but I do think the "bandaid" QB exist. The Alex Smith and Nick Foles guys. You sign them while you are looking for someone better. Those guys normally get mid-level money. Alex Smith got a huge contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: Alex Smith got a huge contract. So did Foles....lol the bandaid contracts are just giant money with short term deals and maybe a long term deal with an out either way......you either draft a guy, paying giant money or you flat out don’t have a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: 17 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: Alex Smith got a huge contract. So did Foles....lol the bandaid contracts are just giant money with short term deals and maybe a long term deal with an out either way......you either draft a guy, paying giant money or you flat out don’t have a QB They both got below average contracts compared to the market. Both of them were right around $23m/year. Matt Ryan around that same time got $30m. Thats 30% more.. Kirk got 22% more at $28m - fully GTD. Jimmy G got $27.5 and that was before he had even played like 10 games in his career. Stafford got $27. Carr $25m. Those contracts were signed in 2017, before Smith and Foles. I dont know about you, but IMO getting 20-30% less than your peers drops you to mid-tier. Edited February 4, 2020 by Matts4313 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 That would be like Wentz signing for $33m and the Dak signing for $25m. Thats a huge gap in pay. (setting you all up for Dak jokes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 With QB there's more of a dichotomy than at any other position. "Can this guy win us a Superbowl? Yes/No" There are bandaid guys but they fall under the "No" part of it. Will never be "The Guy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: They both got below average contracts compared to the market. Both of them were right around $23m/year. Matt Ryan around that same time got $30m. Thats 30% more.. Kirk got 22% more at $28m - fully GTD. Jimmy G got $27.5 and that was before he had even played like 10 games in his career. Stafford got $27. Carr $25m. Those contracts were signed in 2017, before Smith and Foles. I dont know about you, but IMO getting 20-30% less than your peers drops you to mid-tier. You just love to argue semantics. Lol in terms of the entire cap and the way it is at every other position there is no middle tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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