CWood21 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, NYRaider said: I think he'll be even more efficient this year now that defenses can't key in on him anymore. He finally has 2 other scoring threats in the lineup. But if you're adding more offensive pieces (i.e. Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic, etc.), someone's going to lose more shots. There's only a finite number of shots going around. Last year, the Jazz averaged 86.4 FGA. Donovan Mitchell averaged 20 FGA, Mike Conley averaged 16 FGA, Bojan Bogdanovic averaged 13 FGA, and Rudy Gobert averaged 9 FGA. Between those four, you're talking about just over 2/3rds of the FGA accounted for. Someone's going to suffer. The question is who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: But if you're adding more offensive pieces (i.e. Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic, etc.), someone's going to lose more shots. There's only a finite number of shots going around. Last year, the Jazz averaged 86.4 FGA. Donovan Mitchell averaged 20 FGA, Mike Conley averaged 16 FGA, Bojan Bogdanovic averaged 13 FGA, and Rudy Gobert averaged 9 FGA. Between those four, you're talking about just over 2/3rds of the FGA accounted for. Someone's going to suffer. The question is who? Yup. This was basically what happened with Jimmy Butler in the Sixers offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: You were just claiming his word as damn near gospel a couple of pages ago, if he said it then it must be true according to you. He said Mitchell is on the verge of superstardom, so it must be true... Woj is an elite reporter of news. He has insight we do not on where players are going to end up. Is he was an elite evaluator of talent he'd be a GM not a reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er pride Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Stop feeding the troll lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Danger said: You Cherry pick statistics just as much as @Matts4313 Some of us understand cause and effect, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Danger said: PG: 1. Steph Curry 2. Damian Lillard 3. Kyrie Irving 4. Mike Conley 5. Kemba Walker SG: 1. Harden 2. Klay 3. Mitchell 4. Beal 5. McCollum C: 1. Embiid 2. Davis 3. Gobert 4. Jokic 5. KAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, Bullet Club said: Woj is an elite reporter of news. He has insight we do not on where players are going to end up. Is he was an elite evaluator of talent he'd be a GM not a reporter. He said Mitchell is a superstar and Utah is a contender. He hears that from executives around the league. It's fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 For real though. If the Whole Jazz convo is gonna keep going on here, can someone make an new thread for NYRaider to pillow talk into? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, 49er pride said: Stop feeding the troll lol He's not trolling. Just homering it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: But if you're adding more offensive pieces (i.e. Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic, etc.), someone's going to lose more shots. There's only a finite number of shots going around. Last year, the Jazz averaged 86.4 FGA. Donovan Mitchell averaged 20 FGA, Mike Conley averaged 16 FGA, Bojan Bogdanovic averaged 13 FGA, and Rudy Gobert averaged 9 FGA. Between those four, you're talking about just over 2/3rds of the FGA accounted for. Someone's going to suffer. The question is who? Mitchell will probably take fewer attempts but be more efficient. We'll also probably play at a faster pace this season with more offensive firepower. Last year we had to slow it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Danger said: Yup. This was basically what happened with Jimmy Butler in the Sixers offense. And he was the only player worth a damn against Toronto when Embiid and Simmons do their annual disappearing act in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Danger said: Having Horford on our team does enable Embiid quite a bit though because Horford was far and away the best player in the league at defending Embiid. Not that there aren't others who can't do it, but it's going to be far less often. And Horford who's elite at stopping big men is going to be on the perimeter chasing smaller guys off the 3 point line, great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: And he was the only player worth a damn against Toronto when Embiid and Simmons do their annual disappearing act in the postseason. Won't deny that. They need to mature. Ben needs to expand and fill out his repertoire. You seem to ignore that they're still young and very much able to continue to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, Danger said: Won't deny that. They need to mature. Ben needs to expand and fill out his repertoire. You seem to ignore that they're still young and very much able to continue to improve. Ben Simmons lacks that dog in him/killer instinct. Dude is also the worst shooter in the history of the NBA and a 6'10" Ricky Rubio that is virtually useless in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: And Horford who's elite at stopping big men is going to be on the perimeter chasing smaller guys off the 3 point line, great move. So you think Embiid and Horford are only going to be on the floor at the same time? Think about this for a minute. They might be on the floor at the same time for at most 15-20 minutes each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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