DoleINGout Posted July 7, 2019 Author Share Posted July 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Tre'Davious White might be top 100 Might Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I agree with @Thomas5737 about Brees and his age starting to show. He'll still have a good season but not sure I'd put him in the top 10. Good job putting Fletcher Cox in the top 10 though 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 5 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Might Is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Art_Vandalay said: I agree with @Thomas5737 about Brees and his age starting to show. He'll still have a good season but not sure I'd put him in the top 10. Good job putting Fletcher Cox in the top 10 though 👍🏻 On 7/6/2019 at 12:49 AM, DoleINGout said: Ten biggest risers in 2019 (Anticipated heading into 2020): Saquon Barkley Baker Mayfield Jalen Ramsey Jared Goff Pat Mahomes Deshaun Watson Odell Beckham Deion Jones Jaylon Smith Jamal Adams On 7/6/2019 at 12:57 AM, DoleINGout said: Ten biggest anticipated fallers from my list heading into 2020: Drew Brees Tom Brady Philip Rivers Julio Jones Keenan Allen Harrison Smith Earl Thomas Duane Brown Marshal Yanda (retiring) Tyreek Hill (indefinite suspension if upheld) Coming off the year Brees had with that many comebacks and his level of intangibles and accuracy I can't say I feel there is a better player currently heading into the 2019 season. Maybe Brady, maybe Kuechly, if you want to argue Donald cause of his stats too then fine. Now, by the time the playoffs roll around I'm sure Brees will have some similar velocity and distance loss on his passes to last season. However, expect to see an even stronger ground game and balanced approach with less demanded of Brees than before. Having Jared Cook and even rookie Alize Mack as tight ends is going to pair very well with their backs and all speedy receivers. Latavious Murray is an X-Factor for the Saints to accomplish this in 2019. Last season, Murray had one of the highest average yards per carry against stacked formations of eight men in the box. Anyways, the Saints balance will help keep Brees fresh like the Patriots accomplished with Tom Brady last year and ai believe it will pay serious dividends. I think we won't see the decline from Brees because of how differently preserved he'll be. (Brady, for what it's worth to ya'lls, is incorporating more weight training into his regimen than he had been in recent years. Some of the decline in arm strength from Brady was a result of intentional training away from muscle mass to increase pliability thus avoiding injury on QB hits. Brady has publicly stated he noticed a slight decrease from what he was used to directly correlated to the training he designed. 2019 I think will appear to be better years for both QB's thus I don't think they're dropping off from top 5 players in the NFL.) Heading into 2020 however is a different story for Brady and I think more so Brees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 12:00 PM, DoleINGout said: As disruptive as Donald is rushing the passer, he is still undersized and was neutralized in the playoffs by the Saints and Patriots when it counted most. Brees, Kuechly, and Brady provide a greater impact consistently from what I have seen to elevate their teams to success. You are a Rams fan I take it, so I understand your appreciation of Aaron Donald is greater than mine. Just like I, a Pats fan, may have a stronger appreciation for Tom Brady. In the end however, they're both so great that the difference we're discussing is like splitting hairs. It may just come down to personal preference and philosophy. As far as QBs go, they will always be able to impact the game more. If that's a criteria, every above average QB should be above every other position. The Brees ranking really makes no sense. Obviously a lot of people talked about the blown DPI call, and rightfully so - but it took away from the fact that Goff went toe-to-toe with Brees and ultimately outplayed him down the stretch. The Rams held the Saints - in New Orleans - under 300 yards of offense. I can't recall that happening anytime recently. And they'd have been held under 300 even if they call the DPI and the Saints win the game. Brees looked nearly done down the stretch last year, and it carrier over into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, FrantikRam said: If that's a criteria, every above average QB should be above every other position. The criteria is more specific in the first post of this thread. For my rankings, nothing was decided solely by how often a player handled the football. However, on some level, a players impact on the team is a major factor. In essence, choosing the person who I think currently displays the greatest sum of all parts necessary to win is not just taking positional value into consideration. Ever so slightly, Drew Brees wins-out over the next closest competition for best player heading into 2019. After seven game winning drives and six fourth quarter comebacks in 2018 during the regular season alone, only for the playoffs to be a little underwhelming by comparison, Brees proved his capacity to repeatedly step up better than anyone else when the moment called for it. As for the others ahead of Donald, I think Brady does more for the Patriots run offense than Donald does for the Rams run defense. Kuechly, Brady, and Donald all dominate the passing game in various ways to similar degrees. Kuechly dominates in coverage diagnosing plays for the rest of the defense, Brady's play recognition leads to timely execution on the biggest stages consistently, and Donald dominates in rushing the pass to disrupt play execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 6/28/2019 at 8:34 AM, DoleINGout said: #31 Kevin Byard Safety for the Titans. Impact player in coverage as far as creating turnovers and eliminating offenses from creating big plays. Arguably the most well-rounded safety to play in the last two full seasons. Too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) @dtait93 Where do you slot Byard? Edited July 10, 2019 by DoleINGout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: @dtait93 Where do you slot Byard? Ahead of Eddie Jackson imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, dtait93 said: Ahead of Eddie Jackson imo queue the onslaught from angry Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, DoleINGout said: queue the onslaught from angry Bears More interceptions and more PD’s over the last 2 years, better ball hawk, and better in the box Edited July 10, 2019 by dtait93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 I feel like after week one, looking back on this list, only Kenny Clark and Jaylen Smith were rated way too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Watchlist: Dak Prescott, Marlon Mack, James Connor, Tarik Cohen, Mark Andrews, Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, Nick Chubb, Allen Robinson, Derrick Henry, Kirk Cousins, Kevin Zeitler Any other offensive players nominated from your team for the top 100? Edited September 10, 2019 by DoleINGout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Updated "Top 100" Consists Of (By Position): QUARTERBACK: Brady Watson Wilson Mahomes Brees Rodgers Rivers Prescott Goff Jackson Wentz RUNNER: Barkley Elliott McCaffrey Kamara Jacobs Johnson Cook RECEIVER: Jones Hopkins Brown Beckham Jr Theilen Hill Adams Evans Thomas Hilton Ridley Allen Lockett TIGHT END: Kelce Andrews Ertz Kittle Waller TACKLE: Williams Smith Bakhtiari Armstead Schwartz Ramczyk Johnson Whitworth Staley GUARD: Martin Nelson Yanda Scherff Thuney Marpet DeCastro Brooks Zeitler CENTER: Kelce Frederick Hudson INTERIOR: Donald Jarrett Cox Jones Clark Hicks Casey Atkins Payne Goldman END/EDGE: Mack Jordan Watt Lawrence Campbell Jones Garrett Hunter Chubb Allen LINEBACKER: Kuechly Wagner Hightower Miller Smith Jones Leonard Vander Esch CORNER: Ramsey Gilmore Peterson Harris King Slay Hayward Fuller White SAFETY: Jackson Byard Thomas James Smith Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 @DoleINGout - No mason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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