2020 nfl mock drafts thread

[LinderFournette]

12 minutes ago, .Buzz said:

I love it but I also don't know that we can pass on a WR in a historic receiver draft with for the first 4 rounds damn near. Ideally you'd want one by round 3.

in most classes those 2 guys likely go round 2-3 . i was going a Bit BPA with need.  

[Tugboat]

5 hours ago, .Buzz said:

I love it but I also don't know that we can pass on a WR in a historic receiver draft with for the first 4 rounds damn near. Ideally you'd want one by round 3.

Honestly, i'm not sure i buy this "historic receiver draft".  It's got a few really good ones at the top, and there's a kinda crazy depth of sorta late 1st/early 2nd types of every shape and size.  Obviously looks very strong, with good depth...but "historic" feels like such a big label.  Obviously only time will tell in the end.  But we've had drafts like that before in terms of decent top-end and good depth into the 2nd round and such.

But yeah...it does feel like a place we ought to be getting a guy.  We need a WR.  Draft has good depth of Day1 and 2 sort of talent.  Should be a pretty easy fit.  Though sometimes there's just weird situations with other players you like more falling in your lap that you can't pass up.  

[JaguarCrazy2832]

3 hours ago, Tugboat said:

Honestly, i'm not sure i buy this "historic receiver draft".  It's got a few really good ones at the top, and there's a kinda crazy depth of sorta late 1st/early 2nd types of every shape and size.  Obviously looks very strong, with good depth...but "historic" feels like such a big label.  Obviously only time will tell in the end.  But we've had drafts like that before in terms of decent top-end and good depth into the 2nd round and such.

But yeah...it does feel like a place we ought to be getting a guy.  We need a WR.  Draft has good depth of Day1 and 2 sort of talent.  Should be a pretty easy fit.  Though sometimes there's just weird situations with other players you like more falling in your lap that you can't pass up.  

Thats where it comes down to for me. We have a need there for sure but I think our need on the DL, CB, FS, TE and OL(where depends on the reshuffling) are all greater. We couldn't stop anyone on the ground last year. With that said I wouldn't hate if we didn't take a WR in the 1st 3 rounds. We're playing the long game right now and hopefully can accumulate some more 2021 picks but if we kept all the picks we have and draft well we'll fix alot of depth issues. 

I'm excited for the draft because it's the most picks I can remember in a long time, but sadly of the last 12-15 years I've been following the draft, this year I definitely know the least about this class. Last year I was up watching with my newborn son(like 6 weeks old) and now I barely had time to watch anything but Auburn football 

[LinderFournette]

9 Henry Ruggs III, WR starting wr

20 Javon Kinlaw, IDL 3 tech

42 A.J. Epenesa, EDGE big end

73 Bryce Hall, CB starting cb

116 Tyler Biadasz, IOL future starting g/c

137 Lynn Bowden, WR should start as a returner as hes raw in running routes but should develop into a slot wr

140 Harrison Hand, CB cb depth. Cpuld potentially play safety

165 Harrison Bryant, TE te competition

170 Patrick Taylor Jr., RB pass catching rb

189 Jacob Phillips, LB backup lb

206 Alex Taylor, OT swing tackle

223 Joe Reed, WR returner who is an offensive weapon

[JaguarCrazy2832]

Has Epenesa fallen that hard?

[LinderFournette]

43 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said:

Has Epenesa fallen that hard?

A very lackluster combine where he ran slower then some defensive tackles.  He seems to be stuck as a 5tech and maybe at big end. 

I remember when michael Bennett(the 1 we picked) was considered a 2/3 rounder) but fell due to being considered purely as a 3tech

[LinderFournette]

9 CeeDee Lamb, WR starting wr

20 Josh Jones, OT future starting lt

42 Trevon Diggs, CB starting cb

73 Jeremy Chinn, S highly athletic s

116 Leki Fotu, IDL potential future starting nt

137 Lynn Bowden, WR return specialist. 

140 Ben Bredeson, IOL guard depth

165 Harrison Bryant, TE te competition

170 Khalil Davis, IDL rotational highly athletic interior linemen

189 Patrick Taylor Jr., RB pass catching back

206 Justin Strnad, LB lb depth

223 Oluwole Betiku Jr., EDGE developmental edge rusher

[LinderFournette]

9 Henry Ruggs III, WR Alabama Starting WR

20 Josh Jones, OT Houston Future LT. could push Cam robinson

42 Ross Blacklock, IDL TCU Starting DT

73 Bryce Hall, CB Virginia Starting CB

116 Devin Asiasi, TE UCLA Future Starting TE?

137 Leki Fotu, IDL Utah DT Depth/BPA

140 John Simpson, IOL Clemson RG competition

165 Shaquille Quarterman, LB Miami Backup MIke

170 Tanner Muse, S Clemson Backup S/ST

189 Michael Divinity Jr., LB LSU Backup Sam/edge rusher

206 Trevis Gipson, EDGE Tulsa Developmental Edge

223 Reggie Robinson II, CB Tulsa Developmental CB

[DuvalsKing]

Defensive rebuild mock:

Mock fell weird once Kinlaw went 7th overall to Carolina Okudah fell in my lap and Gladney was just a selection I decided because I didn’t feel like pulling the trigger on Justin Johnson at 20. I just decided to draft both and pay the best 1 at the end of their rookie contracts.. if you don’t like the theory sue me.. I’m bored it’s quarantine and its my mock dammit.

Round 1 Pick 9: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, OSU, starting corner

Round 1 Pick 20: Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU, starting corner paired with Okudah for the next 4 yrs

Round 2 Pick 42: Ross Blacklock, IDL, TCU, Dareus replacement.

Round 3 Pick 73: Antonio Gibson, RB, Memp, versatile change of pace back.. KR on ST 4.3 speed really good hands also played receiver.

Round 4 Pick 116: Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU, upgrade TE 

Round 4 Pick 137: Nick Coe, Edge, Auburn, 6’5 291 big end CCs replacement very strong against the run can provide snaps interior wise. Coe, Bryan, Blacklock, Allen gives you a sturdy dline for at least the next 2-4 yrs. Jags will lack higher end sack numbers but will still be solid.

Round 4 Pick 140: Ben Bredeson, G, Michigan (Depth at guard with potential to start)

Round 5 Pick 170: Antonio Brooks, S, Maryland competition for S can play the split safety look more of SS. Depth.

Round 6 Pick 189: Francis Bernard , LB, Utah (Had some off the field trouble dui was originally at BYU bounced back very smart instinctive football player would be good developmental piece that could end up starting in 3 yrs.)

Round 6 Pick 206:  Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island, small school wide out decent size good route runner and reliable hands. Depth

Round 7 Pick 223: Levonta Taylor, CB, FSU, solid corner suffered from piss poor coaching. Has time playing free safety PS stash developmental player. Too small to play corner on the boundary but can play slot corner or future FS.

[Tugboat]

56 minutes ago, DuvalsKing said:

Defensive rebuild mock:

Mock fell weird once Kinlaw went 7th overall to Carolina Okudah fell in my lap and Gladney was just a selection I decided because I didn’t feel like pulling the trigger on Justin Johnson at 20. I just decided to draft both and pay the best 1 at the end of their rookie contracts.. if you don’t like the theory sue me.. I’m bored it’s quarantine and its my mock dammit.

Round 1 Pick 9: Jeffrey Okudah, CB, OSU, starting corner

Round 1 Pick 20: Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU, starting corner paired with Okudah for the next 4 yrs

Round 2 Pick 42: Ross Blacklock, IDL, TCU, Dareus replacement.

Round 3 Pick 73: Antonio Gibson, RB, Memp, versatile change of pace back.. KR on ST 4.3 speed really good hands also played receiver.

Round 4 Pick 116: Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU, upgrade TE 

Round 4 Pick 137: Nick Coe, Edge, Auburn, 6’5 291 big end CCs replacement very strong against the run can provide snaps interior wise. Coe, Bryan, Blacklock, Allen gives you a sturdy dline for at least the next 2-4 yrs. Jags will lack higher end sack numbers but will still be solid.

Round 4 Pick 140: Ben Bredeson, G, Michigan (Depth at guard with potential to start)

Round 5 Pick 170: Antonio Brooks, S, Maryland competition for S can play the split safety look more of SS. Depth.

Round 6 Pick 189: Francis Bernard , LB, Utah (Had some off the field trouble dui was originally at BYU bounced back very smart instinctive football player would be good developmental piece that could end up starting in 3 yrs.)

Round 6 Pick 206:  Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island, small school wide out decent size good route runner and reliable hands. Depth

Round 7 Pick 223: Levonta Taylor, CB, FSU, solid corner suffered from piss poor coaching. Has time playing free safety PS stash developmental player. Too small to play corner on the boundary but can play slot corner or future FS.

I'd be practically inconsolable after a draft like this.  

 

I mean, we may ultimately need two CBs, but that and Blacklock would be such a disappointing way to walk away from the first two rounds of premium picks.

I don't really see Blacklock as a Dareus replacement either.  Feels like he'd be more of a...Taven replacement.  So much of what he does at TCU is twists and stunts and slipping blocks.  Not really blowing up the pocket, moving bodies, and occupying blockers like Dareus.  I mean, it's hard to get a read on some of these TCU DLine guys, because there is so much shenanigans going on there.  So who knows what he ultimately evolves into as a Pro...but that's not really the sort of player i saw there.  Though there's also nothing wrong with drafting a 3T to push or surpass Taven and others.  I also just don't really love Blacklock much in the first place.

 

But hey, like you said...it's a pandemic.  No harm in playing out a really bizarre mock scenario.  It's certainly uh...different.

[DuvalsKing]

33 minutes ago, Tugboat said:

I'd be practically inconsolable after a draft like this.  

 

I mean, we may ultimately need two CBs, but that and Blacklock would be such a disappointing way to walk away from the first two rounds of premium picks.

I don't really see Blacklock as a Dareus replacement either.  Feels like he'd be more of a...Taven replacement.  So much of what he does at TCU is twists and stunts and slipping blocks.  Not really blowing up the pocket, moving bodies, and occupying blockers like Dareus.  I mean, it's hard to get a read on some of these TCU DLine guys, because there is so much shenanigans going on there.  So who knows what he ultimately evolves into as a Pro...but that's not really the sort of player i saw there.  Though there's also nothing wrong with drafting a 3T to push or surpass Taven and others.  I also just don't really love Blacklock much in the first place.

 

But hey, like you said...it's a pandemic.  No harm in playing out a really bizarre mock scenario.  It's certainly uh...different.

I’m not enamored with Blacklock but on my big board he is that tier 2 of the best interior Dlineman.. and as bad as the run is I threw a resource at it.. and none of the Olineman on the board intrigued me either because I had 2nd round grades on those left on the board at 20. But in the way the mock fell with It Okudah dropping to 9 when it got to pick 20 I really didn’t want to draft anymore the wideouts left on the board were Johnson, Higgins, Reagor, Hamler I’m not really excited about either prospect at 20. Johnson and Higgins to me are too similar in ability to Chark, Jags could really use a shifty offensive weapon I think Hamler and Reagor fit that bill but at 20.. I couldn’t pull the trigger on that. I could have went Delpit or Love at 42.. I’m mum on safety it’s other pressing needs.. Love fell to the 3rd round in the mock. I thought about Love but I went Blacklock. Maybe I could have went interior Oline but as dreadful at the run D was I had to address it. 

Edited April 6, 2020 by DuvalsKing

[.Buzz]

36 minutes ago, DuvalsKing said:

I’m not enamored with Blacklock but on my big board he is that tier 2 of the best interior Dlineman.. and as bad as the run is I threw a resource at it.. and none of the Olineman on the board intrigued me either because I had 2nd round grades on those left on the board at 20. But in the way the mock fell with It Okudah dropping to 9 when it got to pick 20 I really didn’t want to draft anymore the wideouts left on the board were Johnson, Higgins, Reagor, Hamler I’m not really excited about either prospect at 20. Johnson and Higgins to me are too similar in ability to Chark, Jags could really use a shifty offensive weapon I think Hamler and Reagor fit that bill but at 20.. I couldn’t pull the trigger on that. I could have went Delpit or Love at 42.. I’m mum on safety it’s other pressing needs.. Love fell to the 3rd round in the mock. I thought about Love but I went Blacklock. Maybe I could have went interior Oline but as dreadful at the run D was I had to address it. 

I'd maybe think about Higgins, but based on how it fell I like it?

Blacklock is definitely known more for his pass rushing though. But that's also an area that could use some help (3T).

Maybe Davon Hamilton there if you are more worried about NT but...

[LinderFournette]

9 Henry Ruggs III, WR Alabama Starting WR

20 Javon Kinlaw, IDL South Carolina Starting DT

42 Grant Delpit, S LSU Starting FS

73 Robert Hunt, IOL Louisiana Potential Starting RG/LG(norwell should be gone next year)

116 Michael Ojemudia, CB Iowa i really wanted to go corner earlier then this but there wasnt much value to be had.  he fits the criteria they seem to want in a CB. only thing i dont like is his small hands.  hes also not the best in run support and shouldnt play in off coverage ever. 

137 Alton Robinson, EDGE Syracuse replacement for ngakoue.

140 Harrison Hand, CB Temple CB Competition.  

165 Trey Adams, OT Washington Left tackle competition. if hes back to health could be a steal. 

170 Patrick Taylor Jr., RB Memphis Pass catching rb

189 Tyler Clark, IDL Georgia Quality backup IDL

206 Jared Pinkney, TE Vanderbilt Backup INLINE TE

223 Reggie Robinson II, CB Tulsa CB Competition. 

[DuvalsKing]

More conservative BPA you im not a fan of any of the edge defenders this year draft.

Round 1 Pick 9: CeeDee Lamb, WR, OU, starting wide receiver 

Round 1 Pick 20: K’Lavon Chaisson, Edge, LSU, Yanns replacement. 

Round 2 Pick 42: Austin Jackson, T, USC, Tackle competition possible move to G for Jackson or Cam

Round 3 Pick 73: Damon Arnette, CB, OSU, starting CB.

Round 4 Pick 116: Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU, upgrade TE 

Round 4 Pick 137: Nick Coe, Edge, Auburn, 6’5 291 big end CCs replacement very strong against the run can provide snaps interior wise.

Round 4 Pick 140: McTelvin Agim, IDL, Tex A&M possible starting 3 tech.. underrated inline defender. 

Round 5 Pick 165: Shaquille Quarterman, LB, Miami, underrated linebacker drastically improves the floor of the linebacker room maybe the new starting Sam back up Will.

Round 5 Pick 170: Antonio Brooks, S, Maryland competition for S can play the split safety look more of SS. Depth.

Round 6 Pick 189: Lamar Jackson , CB, Nebraska, possible starting CB.

Round 6 Pick 206: Charlie Taumoepeau, TE, Port St., good in line blocker solid hands can block well inline as well as lead blocker out of the backfield.

Round 7 Pick 223: Reggie Corbin, RB, IIl, pass catching back smaller back in the mold of Sproles. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by DuvalsKing

[LinderFournette]

9 Mekhi Becton, OT starting lt

20 Jeff Gladney, CB starting cb

42 Grant Delpit, S starting fs

73 Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR potential starting wr

116 Leki Fotu, IDL future nt?

137 Alton Robinson, EDGE ngakoue replacement

140 John Simpson, IOL rg competition

165 Khalil Davis, IDL athletic interior dt

170 Dalton Keene, TE pass catching te

189 Tanner Muse, S safety depth

206 Reggie Robinson II, CB cb competition

223 Oluwole Betiku Jr., EDGE edge depth