swede700 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 8:32 AM, vike daddy said: Vikings defensive end Danielle Hunter has been named the NFC’s defensive player of the week as a result of his performance against Detroit. It’s the second time he’s taken the prize. Hunter had seven overall tackles in the win over the Lions. He heads into Week 15 needing 2.5 sacks in order to set a new career high for a single season. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/12/11/danielle-hunter-is-the-nfc-defensive-player-of-the-week/ And now potentially on the short list for Defensive Player of the Year. There is no standout defensive player in the NFL this year, so he has a decent shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, swede700 said: And now potentially on the short list for Defensive Player of the Year. There is no standout defensive player in the NFL this year, so he has a decent shot. I think it’s going to be hard for anyone to take it from Aaron Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: And now potentially on the short list for Defensive Player of the Year. There is no standout defensive player in the NFL this year, so he has a decent shot. It'll probably be Gilmore (splash plays and scoring) or Donald (name recognition). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I think it’s going to be hard for anyone to take it from Aaron Donald. I agree. Hunter would have to have two more incredible games to drum up enough attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, vikingsrule said: I think it’s going to be hard for anyone to take it from Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald isn't going to be on a playoff team and Danielle has more sacks, tackles and now more FF. While I'm not guaranteeing that Hunter will win, I don't think it's going to be as easy a call as you seem to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: Aaron Donald isn't going to be on a playoff team and Danielle has more sacks, tackles and now more FF. While I'm not guaranteeing that Hunter will win, I don't think it's going to be as easy a call as you seem to think. Donald is also an interior DL, Hunter should have more sacks. Given that Donald won it last year and he’s still playing at an elite level, I don’t know how you give it to anyone else if no else has really stood out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I think it’s going to be hard for anyone to take it from Aaron Donald. Huh!? Donald isn’t even relevant this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Huh!? Donald isn’t even relevant this year. Not relevant. Really? He’s in that top 5 range in sacks and leads the league in sacks for interior DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Just now, vikingsrule said: Donald is also an interior DL, Hunter should have more sacks. Given that Donald won it last year and he’s still playing at an elite level, I don’t know how you give it to anyone else if no else has really stood out. Danielle is playing far better down the stretch than Donald...and that's what writers will remember. Donald hasn't been all that impactful for the last month, as most of his damage was done from October through early November. Gilmore is more of a threat than Donald is, as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, vikingsrule said: Not relevant. Really? He’s in that top 5 range in sacks and leads the league in sacks for interior DL. Sure, he has stats. But those stats don’t coincide with success. The Rams defense is fairly average this year, the big plays from Donald haven’t come this year, and the Rams are very likely going to miss the playoffs. When it comes to POY awards, team success and context of the stats matters. And this year Donald’s stats just haven’t mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Huh!? Donald isn’t even relevant this year. There's a ton of media hype that he's going to win it for the 3rd year in a row. He's also leading the league in pressures now, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, swede700 said: Danielle is playing far better down the stretch than Donald...and that's what writers will remember. Donald hasn't been all that impactful for the last month, as most of his damage was done from October through early November. Gilmore is more of a threat than Donald is, as far as I'm concerned. DBs rarely win the award though. It will go to one of the sack leaders. Hunter is certainly in the mix, but I still think he will be under appreciated at the end of the day, which will just go back to last years winner, Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Sure, he has stats. But those stats don’t coincide with success. The Rams defense is fairly average this year, the big plays from Donald haven’t come this year, and the Rams are very likely going to miss the playoffs. When it comes to POY awards, team success and context of the stats matters. And this year Donald’s stats just haven’t mattered. The Vikes defense has also been very iffy down the stretch so it’s not like Hunter has the playing on a top 10 defense argument to fall back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: The Vikes defense has also been very iffy down the stretch so it’s not like Hunter has the playing on a top 10 defense argument to fall back on. The Vikings are 6th in points allowed. But more importantly, the Vikings are winning and look to be playoff bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 While the secondary has looked bad frequently, I think that the defense as a whole is being judged pretty harshly. 6th in points allowed, 4th in turnover differential, 9th in sacks, 8th in DVOA. I think the struggles in the secondary are masking a pretty good defensive unit. Hunter and Kendricks have definitely been the standouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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