Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: The issue last game was that town didnt understand that invest immune *did* block the census. Here are the scenarios: 1. Orca is lying. 2. Orca is telling the truth and Counselor was the only scum on his census. Option 3: Orca is just wrong. Counselor and Pickle didnt count. Which means one of Mwil/Daboyle are scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Whicker said: But the common sense, on the surface version of the census says Counselor is scum and the rest are town That's how I originally interpreted it as well, but Counselor's ability does complicate things. This is also why I tend to believe Orca is faking a census, because it really makes us run around for up to 3-4 days, all while they double up on the lynch and night hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Orca’s claim is so sketchy. Let me just mold the definition of a census to fit whatever the thread throws at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: That's how I originally interpreted it as well, but Counselor's ability does complicate things. This is also why I tend to believe Orca is faking a census, because it really makes us run around for up to 3-4 days, all while they double up on the lynch and night hits. I believe it is fake as well and Orca is my vote today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: The issue last game was that town didnt understand that invest immune *did* block the census. That's why I find this particular claim, in light of Counselor's flip, to be more than just merely coincidence. 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 1. Orca is lying. I think Orca is lying. 3 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 2. Orca is telling the truth and Counselor was the only scum on his census. Or: 3. Malf's interpretation/ability order and flavor circumvents the usual rules, and he's laughing about this for his own amusement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Just now, MWil23 said: That's why I find this particular claim, in light of Counselor's flip, to be more than just merely coincidence. I think Orca is lying. Or: 3. Malf's interpretation/ability order and flavor circumvents the usual rules, and he's laughing about this for his own amusement. If Malf is toying with us so be it. Orca is the lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Which means one of Mwil/Daboyle are scum. I have one person who can/has lock-cleared me and my claim is very apparent. If Orca flips town, then Daboyle, who "just now re-read his PM" and has sense changed his claim, is the way to go. I still don't buy Pickle and question whether or not the jailer claim works/fits based upon what I said earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, The Orca said: Why didnt you put in your move and why do you think it failed? @Dome connected again to Daboyle...thoughts? An orca connection* my thought: its an orca connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, daboyle250 said: Just reread my PM. So I’m supposed to target a player and if I’m successful, then that player’s night actions will be redirected to me. If I didn’t submit a choice by deadline, then Malf will randomly decide a player whose moves would be redirected. On Night 1 I didn’t make a choice so I was assigned Dome, of which the move failed. Wtf daboyle 21 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I jailed him last night. An invest (census) wouldnt have worked on him. And yes, I did verify the description. My move failed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: @Dome => can you confirm if he is telling the truth? I got no indication that any redirect attempt was made on me.... but i highly doubt my move can be redirected to anyone anyways, so I think the move failing part makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: The issue last game was that town didnt understand that invest immune *did* block the census. Here are the scenarios: This in particular was the entire post-game conversation last game, where Squire and SwAg rightfully called me on my anti-town (and I was town) preponderance to question the census and WHY and not sharing that information with them. That's why I watched Squire and Malf back to back nights at the end of the game (I freaking new Malf was a watcher...smh) and that's why Malf had a million times more thread capital than I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think Daboyle is telling the truth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I have one person who can/has lock-cleared me and my claim is very apparent. If Orca flips town, then Daboyle, who "just now re-read his PM" and has sense changed his claim, is the way to go. I still don't buy Pickle and question whether or not the jailer claim works/fits based upon what I said earlier. I don’t know if he changed his claim. He just wasn’t clear the first time. His move I still a lightning rod, just not the same as it was last game . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: I have one person who can/has lock-cleared me and my claim is very apparent. I read that you said Blah is town. I dont understand how he can "lock clear" you. 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: If Orca flips town, then Daboyle, who "just now re-read his PM" and has sense changed his claim, is the way to go. If Orca flips town, than I am putting a town lean on you, daboyle and pickle. I am going to assume that Counselor was the only non-town. 1 minute ago, MWil23 said: I still don't buy Pickle and question whether or not the jailer claim works/fits based upon what I said earlier. I specifically asked for clarification for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 This day comes down to two options. Do you want to lynch Orca? Or do you want to lynch Pickle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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