SlevinKelevra Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, mistakey said: see above, quoted an actual 424 word sentence that's not what wordiness means, nor is it indicative of the vast majority of his writing. He is known for compact, concise , punchy writing. In fact, there's even paid software called... wait for it... Hemingway; its purpose is to highlight your overly verbose (wordy) writing. His collective writing averages almost 7 words per sentence less than the average across western English literature. You are simply and objectively wrong. That doesn't mean you can't dislike Hemingway. But it's like you are saying someone is the greatest runningback of all time because they had 1 93 yard touchdown run with 8 madden stick-style jukes, and 23 broken tackles, when they actually had a career average of 1.3 yards per carry on 1000 touches with 2 total TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Laugh track or live audience. The point was I get very annoyed when I hear an audience laughing, whether live or not. Generic laugh track, I tend to agree, although it doesn't bother me much as long as the comedy is good. Laugh tracks are the show trying to tell you where to laugh, and while the live audience has that to a degree, you can also get genuine authentic responses from a live audience that can really enhance a scene in my opinion. A classic example is the Cheers episode where they are all at Cliff's for Thanksgiving dinner and the food fight breaks out. The genuine audience reaction to that scene absolutely heightened it in my opinion, and there were several times Friends had a similar result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, SlevinKelevra said: that's not what wordiness means, nor is it indicative of the vast majority of his writing. He is known for compact, concise , punchy writing. In fact, there's even paid software called... wait for it... Hemingway; its purpose is to highlight your overly verbose (wordy) writing. His collective writing averages almost 7 words per sentence less than the average across western English literature. You are simply and objectively wrong. That doesn't mean you can't dislike Hemingway. But it's like you are saying someone is the greatest runningback of all time because they had 1 93 yard touchdown run with 8 madden stick-style jukes, and 23 broken tackles, when they actually had a career average of 1.3 yards per carry on 1000 touches with 2 total TDs. What are you talking about thats not what Wordiness means? Literally the definition of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fl0nkerton Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 p sure we all knew tom cruise was a psycho but this made me laugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, mistakey said: What are you talking about thats not what Wordiness means? Literally the definition of here's a source that is maybe on a level you can understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbosity " Verbosity or verboseness is speech or writing that uses more words than necessary, e.g. "in spite of the fact that" rather than "although".[1] The opposite of verbosity is plain language. Some teachers, including the author of The Elements of Style, warn against verbosity; similarly Mark Twain and Ernest Hemingway, among others, famously avoid it. Synonyms include wordiness, verbiage, prolixity, grandiloquence, garrulousness, expatiation, logorrhea, and sesquipedalianism. " a long sentence composed of a lot of run-ons/comma splices/independent clauses/etc is not necessarily wordy. Wordy means using more words than needed to convey the same information. it is literally the opposite of what Hemingway is known for. I challenge you to take that 424 monstrosity (of construction) and find words in it that are actually UNNECESSARY with respect to conveying the information he wishes to. I suspect your answer will be ... "but bro! 424!" Thanks for revealing that you read 1 page of his work, didn't like it, and formed a misguided opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, SlevinKelevra said: here's a source that is maybe on a level you can understand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbosity " Verbosity or verboseness is speech or writing that uses more words than necessary, e.g. "in spite of the fact that" rather than "although".[1] The opposite of verbosity is plain language. Some teachers, including the author of The Elements of Style, warn against verbosity; similarly Mark Twain and Ernest Hemingway, among others, famously avoid it. Synonyms include wordiness, verbiage, prolixity, grandiloquence, garrulousness, expatiation, logorrhea, and sesquipedalianism. " a long sentence composed of a lot of run-ons/comma splices/independent clauses/etc is not necessarily wordy. Wordy means using more words than needed to convey the same information. it is literally the opposite of what Hemingway is known for. I challenge you to take that 424 monstrosity (of construction) and find words in it that are actually UNNECESSARY with respect to conveying the information he wishes to. I suspect your answer will be ... "but bro! 424!" Thanks for revealing that you read 1 page of his work, didn't like it, and formed a misguided opinion. Na, ive read a couple of his stuff. Sun also rises. Was also overrated. Farewell to arms was so boring had to put it down. Read his stuff on how to write. Cant believe anyone likes this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just so much setup not wnough meat. Give me a kafka or a camus any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, mistakey said: great gatsby is trash as well. hemingway trash. no u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, animaltested said: no u yep but this is unpopular opinions thread so bring it on babyyyyyyy im still thinking of more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 lolita u guessed it- trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 mailer -> trash, also racist trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, mistakey said: Just so much setup not wnough meat. Give me a kafka or a camus any day. Ok, now Ill let you off the hook for your SLANDER of Hemmy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlevinKelevra Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, mistakey said: Na, ive read a couple of his stuff. Sun also rises. Was also overrated. Farewell to arms was so boring had to put it down. Read his stuff on how to write. Cant believe anyone likes this guy. what does liking or disliking him have to do with your objectively false claim that he was "wordy" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Just now, SlevinKelevra said: what does liking or disliking him have to do with your objectively false claim that he was "wordy" ? bro were in the unpopular opinions thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 i will be completely honest though i was taken aback by how miserable his intro to farewell to arms was. i thought it was going to be free of run ons, straight to the point and got to the meat. it was not at all. objectively it was not. i gave up on him shortly thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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