Brit Pack Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 hours ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: It’s better to not play at all than to call the season off half way through in shame and embarrassment. I don’t see how they can field a season, it’s a logistical clusterf—— one guy walks in the door and next thing you know 30 guys test positive and you can’t field a team. Do you forfeit or does the league fake the tests? An NFL player’s Wife or kid gets sick and dies due to covid outbreak related to football, will they feel the millions of dollars were worth it? I don’t see how they can do it unless all players live in a camp in the wilderness and interact with no one but themselves for football, and even then they will need to quarantine for weeks before interacting with eachother. I just don’t see it coming together in a way that’s actually protecting anyone, so I guess if it starts it’s the NFL deciding associated deaths are just a PR tax Aren't they taking the same amount of risk as someone who works in a grocery store, a doctor/nurse or any other profession which is opened up for business? They are also willingly in a career where they have traded away health for money. They are not of a vulnerable age for this virus and these guys are super athletes. I don't see the issue they face is that unique. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 A look at Vikings COVID19 protocols. https://www.vikings.com/video/an-inside-look-at-how-the-vikings-are-preparing-to-combat-covid-19?M_BT=1088547912007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) https://www.nfl.com/news/players-will-receive-daily-covid-19-tests-for-first-two-weeks-of-camp Daily testing for two weeks? LOL. They demanded it and they are going to absolutely hate it after the first one. Unless there is another way than the long q-tip up the nose. Edited July 21, 2020 by dll2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Brit Pack said: Aren't they taking the same amount of risk as someone who works in a grocery store, a doctor/nurse or any other profession which is opened up for business? They are also willingly in a career where they have traded away health for money. They are not of a vulnerable age for this virus and these guys are super athletes. I don't see the issue they face is that unique. I think grocery stores and nurses operate out of necessity whereas football is purely entertainment. Also a lot of those people are forced back to work because the government wants to boot them off economic supports and they have no choice, or the business owner is forcing them back to work where he can work from a distance and if they refuse the work they don’t qualify for unemployment benefits. basically, the decision of the government not to support its people doesn’t mean the risk doesn’t exist, or that people want to be working because they love slinging groceries. They have no choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Brit Pack said: They are not of a vulnerable age for this virus this is demonstrably false I'd suggest you stop making erroneous declarations and avail yourself of better information You can start with Von Miller who not only contracted the disease but was also suffering from impaired breathing 3 weeks after he cleared the virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Shanedorf said: this is demonstrably false I'd suggest you stop making erroneous declarations and avail yourself of better information You can start with Von Miller who not only contracted the disease but was also suffering from impaired breathing 3 weeks after he cleared the virus @Brit Pack Yes, Von Miller may die any day now from this terrible affliction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, dll2000 said: @Brit Pack Yes, Von Miller may die any day now from this terrible affliction. You are going to sit here and point out how physically fit and healthy the man is making it more terrifying to us normies that he experienced symptoms for up to three weeks and then say it is a reason to NOT be worried? Dude, critical thinking is not your strong suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Shanedorf said: this is demonstrably false I'd suggest you stop making erroneous declarations and avail yourself of better information You can start with Von Miller who not only contracted the disease but was also suffering from impaired breathing 3 weeks after he cleared the virus I'm talking about mortality, not infection. It is okay if Von Miller gets a sprained MCL and is out for 6 weeks but getting Covid 19 and out for 4 weeks is a big no no. I'm from the UK and we often hear the comparison between rugby and American Football. I'm not a massive rugby fan but I have to say in this instance not a peep out of the Rugby players, they are going out to play on the 15th August when they try to complete their season. They are not going on Twitter with this BS. Certain American footballers are using their celebrity status to make out that they are the ones sacrificing so much and how the NFL is being oppressive. They need to grip and stop acting like spoilt kids. They are part of society and whether it is restaurant staff or a sports personality you all got to go out and do your bit to get things back to normal and everyone is at risk just cause you play professional sports does not mean you are above it. I mean the League is giving them an opt out not to play and still get $150,000 for the year. I'm not sure many other professions give their staff those options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Brit Pack said: It is okay if Von Miller gets a sprained MCL and is out for 6 weeks but getting Covid 19 and out for 4 weeks is a big no no. You can't spread an MCL sprain to everyone you meet in an unprecedentedly easy manner whom give it to other who give it to someone's mother who proceeds to die. Unless I just have a complete lack of understanding of MCL sprains on a grander scale than the individual. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: You can't spread an MCL sprain to everyone you meet in an unprecedentedly easy manner whom give it to other who give it to someone's mother who proceeds to die. Unless I just have a complete lack of understanding of MCL sprains on a grander scale than the individual. Yes, lets keep these precious athletes locked away in ivory towers and not expose them to the virus because they are definitely not out socialising, partying meeting friends or coming in contact with anyone, as that would be risky and they could catch or spread Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 We have a proven cure for MCL's, and a great track record in treating them successfully. Most guys are back on the field in a couple weeks We can't say that yet about this novel virus and some of the deleterious affects can last for a long time; we're learning more every day I'm not aware of any fatalities tied to MCLs or ACLs or PCL's - but we do know that the virus has killed at least 600,000 human beings of all ages So it comes down to our current limitations on the medical side and our desire to provide a safer workplace for the players/coaches/families. Speaking of limitations: We also don't have a cure for general ignorance or willful ignorance - and those two scourges have plagued mankind for centuries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Brit Pack said: Yes, lets keep these precious athletes locked away in ivory towers and not expose them to the virus because they are definitely not out socialising, partying meeting friends or coming in contact with anyone, as that would be risky and they could catch or spread Covid. Have you thought that maybe it’s your rugby players that are the ones that are selfish and stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Xenos said: Have you thought that maybe it’s your rugby players that are the ones that are selfish and stupid? I have no idea, you ask them or check out their Twitter feeds and make up your mind if they are stupid or selfish. In my mind they are doing the job they are being paid to do and are not making a song and dance about it. All of us in society are facing risks in our work and daily activities and social interactions and we try to mitigate those risks as best as possible. The choice is either you lock yourself away or you get on with what you got to do in the most manageable manner. The NFL is not being flippant, they are trying to minimise risks. Offering daily Covid testing and $150k opt outs. I don't see many other sports or professions giving so much to their employees. I just can't stand that NFL players are above all of this and if they get sick or family member does because of the work they do that it is worse than someone working in any other industry or business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 9:52 PM, TecmoSuperJoe said: The NFL will never give a F about safety of it's workers. Regardless of what they say. They'll extend seasons for money, play games on Thursdays, and even in a pandemic their solution is to put their head under the covers and hope it just vanishes into the ether. Embarrassing, but not a shock. Just milk the cows dry until the cows are a corpse. Sounds about like every big company in America rite now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Brit Pack said: Yes, lets keep these precious athletes locked away in ivory towers and not expose them to the virus because they are definitely not out socialising, partying meeting friends or coming in contact with anyone, as that would be risky and they could catch or spread Covid. Some, probably. Ivory towers? A bit hyperbolic and verbose. However you are pushing them into a practice where ZERO preventative measures can be taken with people who are NOT players who would otherwise be at home helping to mitigate the spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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